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Comments on MetaFilter post On The FenceThu, 06 Mar 2008 10:13:13 -0800Thu, 06 Mar 2008 10:13:13 -0800en-ushttp://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss60On The Fence
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On November 24, 1874, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Glidden">Joseph Glidden</a> was granted <a href="http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=PALL&s1=0157124.PN.&OS=PN/0157124&RS=PN/0157124">patent number 157124</a>. The invention decribed within is the subject of <a href="http://timecapsule.phasedrift.com/photos_generated/barbed_wire_fence-575x450.jpg">striking images</a>, <a href="http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=fce&q=barbed+wire+tattoos&revid=1105230817&resnum=0&um=1&ie=UTF-8">body art</a>, and <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115624/">painfully bad movies</a>. Yet, the <a href="http://inventors.about.com/od/bstartinventions/a/BarbedWire.htm">history</a> of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbed_wire">barbed wire</a> is interesting enough to warrant <a href="http://www.barbwiremuseum.com/index.htm">multiple</a> <a href="http://www.rushcounty.org/BarbedWireMuseum/">museums</a>.post:www.metafilter.com,2008:site.69663Thu, 06 Mar 2008 09:50:37 -0800DWRoelandshistoryinventionsbarbedwireBy: tkolar
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On that topic, I ran across <a href="http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=PTXT&s1=%22Kolar%3B+David+C%22.INNM.&OS=IN/">this</a> while trying to dig up some family patents the other day.comment:www.metafilter.com,2008:site.69663-2036059Thu, 06 Mar 2008 10:13:13 -0800tkolarBy: racingjs
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<em>The invention decribed within is the subject of striking <strike>images</strike> scars. </em>comment:www.metafilter.com,2008:site.69663-2036061Thu, 06 Mar 2008 10:16:08 -0800racingjsBy: Ironmouth
http://www.metafilter.com/69663/On-The-Fence#2036063
I interned at the Glidden house while I was studying History at NIU. Very cool place.comment:www.metafilter.com,2008:site.69663-2036063Thu, 06 Mar 2008 10:18:50 -0800IronmouthBy: dersins
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Best barbed wire collection I've ever seen was at the <a href="http://www.lasr.net/pages/city.php?Thedford&NE&Thomas+County+Historical+Society+Museum&City_ID=NE0617018&Attraction_ID=NE0617018a001&VA=Y">Thomas County Historical Society museum</a> in <a href="http://www.thedford.org/index.html">Thedford, Nebraska</a>, a tiny town (200-some people) in the middle of the Nebraska sandhills. Hundreds and hundreds of samples, labeled and cataloged. According to the lady at the museum, the collection it was the life's work of a now-deceased local gentleman, and had been on loan to the University of Nebraska for years before coming home to rest in Thedford.comment:www.metafilter.com,2008:site.69663-2036076Thu, 06 Mar 2008 10:28:35 -0800dersinsBy: quin
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How is it that people still think <em>Barb Wire</em> was a bad movie? It's a post-apocalyptic retelling of Casablanca with Pamela Anderson playing the Rick character as a half dressed wasteland bounty hunter with twin Desert Eagles and an attack RV?
I mean, when you think about it, you really have to wonder why it took another 50 some years for them to come up with this visionary update to the original.
Hopefully, they will get around to doing the remake of <em>Citizen Kane</em> with Julie Strain fighting mutant alien-human hybrids in Hellmouth at the Arctic circle.comment:www.metafilter.com,2008:site.69663-2036082Thu, 06 Mar 2008 10:31:43 -0800quinBy: Wolfdog
http://www.metafilter.com/69663/On-The-Fence#2036089
In undergrad, a friend and I invented a data structure that was mostly linear, but could have nodes poking off to the side in places. We called it a <em>bahwahr</em>, based on the visual analogy and the local patois.comment:www.metafilter.com,2008:site.69663-2036089Thu, 06 Mar 2008 10:41:37 -0800WolfdogBy: lumensimus
http://www.metafilter.com/69663/On-The-Fence#2036091
No discussion of barbed wire and film is complete without a discussion of the barbed wire scene in <i>Suspiria</i>, reproduced in unfortunately grainy and fairly NSFW (mostly due to audio) detail <a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=2xh7fB-6Jqc">here</a>.comment:www.metafilter.com,2008:site.69663-2036091Thu, 06 Mar 2008 10:43:25 -0800lumensimusBy: Smart Dalek
http://www.metafilter.com/69663/On-The-Fence#2036100
Barbed wire has also been used in <a href="http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_hb4303/is_200309/ai_n15014654">telephone</a> <a href="http://www.texasescapes.com/DelbertTrew/Barbed-Wire-Telephones.htm">service</a> <a href="http://www.bchistory.org/beavercounty/BeaverCountyTopical/Utilities/TelephoneMSWin77/telephoneMSWin77.html">lines</a>; Cisco later celebrated the deployment of "talking wire" by using the medium for <a href="http://blogs.cisco.com/datacenter/2007/02/ethernet_over_barbed_wire_arcn.html">ethernet</a>.comment:www.metafilter.com,2008:site.69663-2036100Thu, 06 Mar 2008 10:50:02 -0800Smart DalekBy: pracowity
http://www.metafilter.com/69663/On-The-Fence#2036106
If your last name is Dwyer, there's a fair chance you'll name your daughter <a href="http://www.google.pl/search?aq=f&hl=en&safe=off&q=%22barb+dwyer%22">Barb</a>. (Or is it that some women named Barb can't resist marrying a Dwyer?)comment:www.metafilter.com,2008:site.69663-2036106Thu, 06 Mar 2008 10:54:40 -0800pracowityBy: sotonohito
http://www.metafilter.com/69663/On-The-Fence#2036126
Its also just loads of fun to work with. A spool is quite heavy, which you'd think would be obvious but most people who try to pick one up for the first time start with one hand, which is quite funny to watch. Thick gloves won't, actually, protect your hands so you have to handle it carefully. More important, most people, when carrying something heavy, hold it against their body to help distribute the weight more easily; you really don't want to try that with a spool of barb wire, which again you'd think would be obvious, but a surprising number of first timers don't apparently consider until they've poked themselves.
The only really good thing about barb wire fencing is that it lasts roughly forever, so you don't have to do as much repair as you'd fear. But on a big enough ranch there's always some to fix.comment:www.metafilter.com,2008:site.69663-2036126Thu, 06 Mar 2008 11:13:35 -0800sotonohitoBy: PhiBetaKappa
http://www.metafilter.com/69663/On-The-Fence#2036133
I've been to the Devil's Rope Museum in McLean, TX. It's right on old Route 66. Incredible place...I couldn't believe how many types of barbed wire there were/are. They had all kinds of interesting period tools, displays, pictures, and other associated goodies too. Very worth a visit next time you are traipsing across the Texan Panhandle on old Route 66....comment:www.metafilter.com,2008:site.69663-2036133Thu, 06 Mar 2008 11:21:33 -0800PhiBetaKappaBy: scalefree
http://www.metafilter.com/69663/On-The-Fence#2036134
One of my most prized possessions is a length of barbed wire taken from the Branch Dividian compound in Waco. Helpful tourist hint: if you're going to show up unannounced at a former cult compound at midnight on a Friday, don't do so wearing a CIA sweatshirt. The lady camping out in the lean-to at the entrance of the site, who turned out to be the wife or ex-wife of the leader of one faction of the group involved in a lawsuit & off-and-on small arms battle for custody of the property, almost took my friend & I both out with one blast of her shotgun. She was asleep the next day though, when we took a tour of the little museum/gift-shop run by the mother of the leader of another faction, a sweet little old lady who's probably still out there waiting for Koresh to rise from the dead. Insanity runs deep into the earth in that place.comment:www.metafilter.com,2008:site.69663-2036134Thu, 06 Mar 2008 11:23:44 -0800scalefreeBy: 517
http://www.metafilter.com/69663/On-The-Fence#2036181
I weep for everyone with a barbed wire tattoo around the bicep. Who could have known that it would go so wrong.comment:www.metafilter.com,2008:site.69663-2036181Thu, 06 Mar 2008 12:02:36 -0800517By: chugg
http://www.metafilter.com/69663/On-The-Fence#2036219
<em>Thick gloves won't, actually, protect your hands so you have to handle it carefully</em>
I've found, in my barb wire days, that thick leather gloves work the best, and denim bibbed overalls. I still have scars on my arms from being lazy and trying to roll underneath a freshly installed fence to staple it in rather than climbing through or over the top. And nothing beats a fence post to the chin when the hydraulic pounder shreds the top of the post.
Installing barb wire is actually quite therapeutic and relaxing. Lots of long walks in open fields.
/reminiscing
Nice links. Thanks.comment:www.metafilter.com,2008:site.69663-2036219Thu, 06 Mar 2008 12:22:40 -0800chuggBy: slimepuppy
http://www.metafilter.com/69663/On-The-Fence#2036226
I would just like to point out that barbed wire's progeny <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Razor_wire">razor wire</a> is some of the nastiest stuff I've ever had the displeasure of working with. Even with protective gear that wire sticks to your clothes and snags on absolutely everything. I can't even imagine dealing with it in the wild. *shudders*comment:www.metafilter.com,2008:site.69663-2036226Thu, 06 Mar 2008 12:24:41 -0800slimepuppyBy: Alvy Ampersand
http://www.metafilter.com/69663/On-The-Fence#2036230
The click of the fence strecher was my mantra. Nice post*!
<small><small>*Heh, I made an accidental funny. And gloves are for the careless!</small></small>comment:www.metafilter.com,2008:site.69663-2036230Thu, 06 Mar 2008 12:26:02 -0800Alvy AmpersandBy: Flashman
http://www.metafilter.com/69663/On-The-Fence#2036359
I too spent years building barbed wire fences, all across southern Alberta & the Rocky Mountain foothills, with a friend from architecture school who'd invested in a pounder and a beat up old GMC.
Great times, those days walking out wire across that glorious landscape. And my forearms are criss-crossed with the scars to remind me.comment:www.metafilter.com,2008:site.69663-2036359Thu, 06 Mar 2008 13:53:56 -0800FlashmanBy: bitslayer
http://www.metafilter.com/69663/On-The-Fence#2036439
How the world so dearly loves a cage.comment:www.metafilter.com,2008:site.69663-2036439Thu, 06 Mar 2008 14:35:18 -0800bitslayerBy: Alvy Ampersand
http://www.metafilter.com/69663/On-The-Fence#2036973
<em>How the world so dearly <strike>loves a cage</strike> doesn't want their cows to be stolen, lost, hurt, or in the corn.</em>comment:www.metafilter.com,2008:site.69663-2036973Thu, 06 Mar 2008 22:45:39 -0800Alvy Ampersand
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