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Comments on MetaFilter post Samantha SmithSat, 23 Dec 2006 08:21:09 -0800Sat, 23 Dec 2006 08:21:09 -0800en-ushttp://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss60Samantha Smith
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In 1982, ten-year old <a href="http://www.samanthasmith.info/">Samantha Smith</a> from <a href="http://morningsentinel.mainetoday.com/news/local/1886761.shtml">Maine</a> wrote a <a href="http://schools.lwsd.org/Smith/our_school.htm">letter</a> to Yuri Andropov asking whether there was going to be a nuclear war. Andropov <a href="http://www.scsuscholars.com/2006/07/back-in-ussr.html">responded</a>, and Samantha accepted his invitation to stay at a <a href="http://www.artekovetc.ru/press6.html">Russian</a> pioneer camp with Soviet children. Tragically, within the following two years both <a href="http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=19850825-0">the young Samantha</a> and Secretary <a href="http://openweb.tvnews.vanderbilt.edu/1984-2/1984-02-10-CBS-2.html">Andropov</a> <a href="http://www.samanthasmith.info/Nightline.wmv">passed away</a>. <small> (wmv)</small>post:www.metafilter.com,2006:site.57227Sat, 23 Dec 2006 08:20:52 -0800goodnewsfortheinsanesamanthasmithyuriandropovandropovussrrussiausaunitedstateswarcoldwarnuclearwarpeacediplomacyambassadorchildchildrenkidskidswritethedarndestthingsBy: goodnewsfortheinsane
http://www.metafilter.com/57227/Samantha-Smith#1531916
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samantha_Smith">wikipedia</a>comment:www.metafilter.com,2006:site.57227-1531916Sat, 23 Dec 2006 08:21:09 -0800goodnewsfortheinsaneBy: goodnewsfortheinsane
http://www.metafilter.com/57227/Samantha-Smith#1531917
Via <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/57195#1530683">nekton</a> and <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/57195#1530749">hangashore</a> in <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/57195">the magnificent thread on "Threads"</a>. Super duper thanks to <strong>schoolgirl report</strong> and everyone else in that thread for great links and discussion.comment:www.metafilter.com,2006:site.57227-1531917Sat, 23 Dec 2006 08:22:39 -0800goodnewsfortheinsaneBy: davy
http://www.metafilter.com/57227/Samantha-Smith#1531946
I don't think it's tragic that that KGB butcher Andropov croaked.comment:www.metafilter.com,2006:site.57227-1531946Sat, 23 Dec 2006 08:50:56 -0800davyBy: hal9k
http://www.metafilter.com/57227/Samantha-Smith#1531947
Per Wikipedia:
Samantha Reed Smith (June 29, 1972 – August 25, 1985)
Contents
* 1 Biography
o 1.1 <strong>Early years</strong>
/poignantcomment:www.metafilter.com,2006:site.57227-1531947Sat, 23 Dec 2006 08:51:40 -0800hal9kBy: goodnewsfortheinsane
http://www.metafilter.com/57227/Samantha-Smith#1531972
Does the Cyrillic in the title show up properly for you guys? It did for me on preview, but I'm starting to suspect Mefi eated it.comment:www.metafilter.com,2006:site.57227-1531972Sat, 23 Dec 2006 09:17:16 -0800goodnewsfortheinsaneBy: nekton
http://www.metafilter.com/57227/Samantha-Smith#1531986
No, it just says ??????? ????.
Thanks for the reference to the other thread. Like I mentioned there, I was envious of Samantha Smith and her appointed position, which makes me feel like a horrible person...comment:www.metafilter.com,2006:site.57227-1531986Sat, 23 Dec 2006 09:23:27 -0800nektonBy: delmoi
http://www.metafilter.com/57227/Samantha-Smith#1531996
I just get question marks as well.comment:www.metafilter.com,2006:site.57227-1531996Sat, 23 Dec 2006 09:32:38 -0800delmoiBy: goodnewsfortheinsane
http://www.metafilter.com/57227/Samantha-Smith#1532007
Ok, jessamyn changed it from Cyrillic to Latin script. Thanks jess!comment:www.metafilter.com,2006:site.57227-1532007Sat, 23 Dec 2006 09:44:49 -0800goodnewsfortheinsaneBy: SisterHavana
http://www.metafilter.com/57227/Samantha-Smith#1532038
I remember our class totally following this story, because she was just about our age.comment:www.metafilter.com,2006:site.57227-1532038Sat, 23 Dec 2006 10:41:45 -0800SisterHavanaBy: PeterMcDermott
http://www.metafilter.com/57227/Samantha-Smith#1532044
<a href="http://www.metafilter.com/mefi/57227#1531946">davy</a>: "<i>I don't think it's tragic that that KGB butcher Andropov croaked.</i>"
Your favourite tyrant sucks!comment:www.metafilter.com,2006:site.57227-1532044Sat, 23 Dec 2006 10:55:26 -0800PeterMcDermottBy: hangashore
http://www.metafilter.com/57227/Samantha-Smith#1532046
Good job, goodnewsfortheinsane.
If you're looking for the full text of the Andropov response, your best bet is <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samantha_Smith#The_letters">a little ways down the Wikpedia page</a>.comment:www.metafilter.com,2006:site.57227-1532046Sat, 23 Dec 2006 11:03:55 -0800hangashoreBy: JanetLand
http://www.metafilter.com/57227/Samantha-Smith#1532056
There are often flowers placed around her <a href="http://www.samanthasmith.info/Statue%20photos/index.htm">statue </a>in Augusta.comment:www.metafilter.com,2006:site.57227-1532056Sat, 23 Dec 2006 11:27:19 -0800JanetLandBy: three blind mice
http://www.metafilter.com/57227/Samantha-Smith#1532058
<i>poignant</i>
More like a senseless waste of a promising life.
<i>[Accident description:] "The captain's continuation of an unstabilized approach which resulted in a descent below glide slope. Contributing to the unstabilized approach was the radar controller's issuance and the captain's acceptance of a non-standard air traffic control radar vector resulting in an excessive intercept with the localizer." </i>
A pilot friend of mine explains it like this: there are good pilots and there are dead pilots. Self-confidence in a little girl is a wonderful thing, in an inexperienced pilot not so much.comment:www.metafilter.com,2006:site.57227-1532058Sat, 23 Dec 2006 11:34:35 -0800three blind miceBy: nonmerci
http://www.metafilter.com/57227/Samantha-Smith#1532088
Her death seems awfully suspicious to me. It seems like she could have gone on to be a <i>very</i> successful, liberal politician.comment:www.metafilter.com,2006:site.57227-1532088Sat, 23 Dec 2006 12:43:52 -0800nonmerciBy: davidmsc
http://www.metafilter.com/57227/Samantha-Smith#1532090
Wow -- very hazy recollection of this. Very sad that she perished at such a young age. Glad that she is not forgotten. Good post.comment:www.metafilter.com,2006:site.57227-1532090Sat, 23 Dec 2006 12:46:43 -0800davidmscBy: mr_crash_davis
http://www.metafilter.com/57227/Samantha-Smith#1532109
I remember a joke that went something like "Why don't you walk to the edge of a cliff, Yuri, Andropov?"comment:www.metafilter.com,2006:site.57227-1532109Sat, 23 Dec 2006 13:32:35 -0800mr_crash_davisBy: LoriFLA
http://www.metafilter.com/57227/Samantha-Smith#1532144
Reminds me a bit of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_York">Sarah York</a>. Story of York and Manuel Noriega can be heard at <a href="http://www.thislife.org/">thislife.org</a>. The show is titled <strong>My Pen Pal</strong>, broadcast date 09/12/03.comment:www.metafilter.com,2006:site.57227-1532144Sat, 23 Dec 2006 14:54:41 -0800LoriFLABy: matteo
http://www.metafilter.com/57227/Samantha-Smith#1532155
She was, clearly, a Soviet mole who hated America. Let's hear it from <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mona_Charen">a best-selling author</a>:
<blockquote>
<a href="http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/comment-charen021003.asp">Samantha Smith could have been the spokesman for the Democratic Party on the subject of the conflict between the superpowers. It, too, had a weakness for the "if we could only just be friends" style of analysis. </a>It, too, believed that "nothing could be more important than not having a war." And it, too, failed to see why we couldn't all get along by seeking to know one another better. It was a trope of liberal analysis during this period (and similar arguments are now advanced vis-à-vis other adversaries like the Islamists) that conflicts arise among nations due to "misunderstandings." The cure for these misunderstandings could be found in summit meetings, cultural exchanges, sister city initiatives, pen pal programs, and "space bridges." Because the diagnosis was flawed, the cures were unsuccessful. As it turned out, those who understood the Soviets best were the very "hardliners" so scorned by liberals — a fact that was testified to by many former Soviets after 1991. It wasn't that both nations, essentially benevolent, mistrusted one another due to the accumulation of weapons on both sides in some sort of mad and inexplicable race to destruction. Rather, the Soviets were aggressive and predatory, and the United States (along with its allies) sought to thwart it. When the Moscow regime changed, the so-called "arms race" was over.
Doubtless Samantha Smith's letter to the leader of the USSR was motivated in part by the beliefs of her parents. Her mother, Jane Smith, told reporters that Samantha "thinks it would be better to spend more money on programs for the poor rather than on bombs."
</blockquote>
Thankfully, there was no Internet -- the way we have it now -- to speak of at the time of her death, otherwise we'd have enjoyed some interesting reading (think Rachel Corrie on LGF) at the time of her death.comment:www.metafilter.com,2006:site.57227-1532155Sat, 23 Dec 2006 15:20:54 -0800matteoBy: Deep Dish
http://www.metafilter.com/57227/Samantha-Smith#1532265
This is a cute story. I miss the Soviets, they were such good enemies. The Canada/USSR hockey games were a magical battle for freedom. I can almost hear Don Cherry ranting now.
The Taliban probably sucks at hockey, has no space program, and doesn't park subs on our cost or fly bombers over our North. Lamers, lousy 21st century.comment:www.metafilter.com,2006:site.57227-1532265Sat, 23 Dec 2006 20:15:36 -0800Deep DishBy: dhartung
http://www.metafilter.com/57227/Samantha-Smith#1532289
Andropov's resume notwithstanding (e.g. invasion of Hungary), it's hardly tragic when a man of a certain age dies, after becoming leader of his country. Nor was it a particularly missed opportunity -- Andropov and Chernenko were just stopgaps holding the Brezhnev era together a few more years until the Gorbachev reformers took over.
Anyway, what the Mona Charens and davys of the world can't stand is that Smith created the potential for a human image of "the enemy".
<i>Self-confidence in a little girl is a wonderful thing, in an inexperienced pilot not so much.</i>
It was a commuter flight. Are you confusing Samantha Smith with <a href="http://www-tech.mit.edu/V116/N18/pilot.18w.html">Jessica Dubroff</a>?comment:www.metafilter.com,2006:site.57227-1532289Sat, 23 Dec 2006 21:37:30 -0800dhartungBy: kid ichorous
http://www.metafilter.com/57227/Samantha-Smith#1532343
<strong>Deep Dish</strong>: <em>The Taliban probably sucks at hockey, has no space program, and doesn't park subs on our cost or fly bombers over our North. Lamers, lousy 21st century.</em>
Not to worry. The Chinese have ping-pong, ICBMs, and beer in the fridge.comment:www.metafilter.com,2006:site.57227-1532343Sun, 24 Dec 2006 00:33:02 -0800kid ichorousBy: pax digita
http://www.metafilter.com/57227/Samantha-Smith#1532404
<em>I miss the Soviets, they were such good enemies. </em>
An enemy is a useful thing to have.
Nice thing about al-Qaeda: They're probably never going to go entirely out of business, though perhaps they'll mutate into something else.comment:www.metafilter.com,2006:site.57227-1532404Sun, 24 Dec 2006 06:21:39 -0800pax digitaBy: mobunited
http://www.metafilter.com/57227/Samantha-Smith#1532774
From the editorial in the third link:
<em>A quaint little story about a quaint little country where they check your cassette tape song list at the airport. Either that, or the failure of a peace activist to see oppression right in front of her beret.</em>
So it's better than crossing into the US post 9/11/01? That's when I've had US customs query me on the music I was listening to, the clothes I was wearing and my religious beliefs.
Seriously, the USSR was a terrible place that was bereft of freedom, but man, some people have Cold War grudges so deep that their superficial critiques end up being hilarious.comment:www.metafilter.com,2006:site.57227-1532774Sun, 24 Dec 2006 22:22:31 -0800mobunited
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