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Comments on MetaFilter post Alone and ashamed with fistulasTue, 20 May 2003 09:33:33 -0800Tue, 20 May 2003 09:33:33 -0800en-ushttp://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss60Alone and ashamed with fistulas
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<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2003/05/16/opinion/16KRIS.html">Nicholas Kristof wrote this article<br></a> about <a href="http://www.fistulatrust.org/HistM.html">this woman</a><br>
who founded <a href="http://www.fistulahospital.org">this hospital</a><br>
which treats <a href="http://www.unfpa.org/issues/factsheets/fistula_defining.htm">this condition</a>, which is so awful...post:www.metafilter.com,2003:site.25883Tue, 20 May 2003 09:32:29 -0800languagehatKristofHamlinfistulasobstetricfistulasfistulahospitalgynecologywomenBy: languagehat
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...Dr. Hamlin calls them "the women most to be pitied in the world."
From Kristof's article (sorry, this is unpleasant reading, skip it if you're about to have lunch):<blockquote>Dr. Catherine Hamlin, 79, is an Australian gynecologist who has spent the last 44 years in Addis Ababa, quietly toiling in impossible conditions to achieve the unimaginable. She has helped 24,000 women overcome obstetric fistulas, a condition almost unknown in the West but indescribably hideous for millions of sufferers in the poorest countries in the world.<br>
It typically occurs when a teenage girl cannot deliver a baby because it is too big for her pelvis. After several days of labor without access to a doctor, the baby dies and the girl is left with a hole between her bladder, vagina and sometimes rectum. The result is that urine and sometimes feces drip constantly down her legs. In some cases, she is also left lame from nerve damage.<br>
Women with fistulas stink and leave a trail of urine behind them. They are often abandoned by their husbands and driven out by other villagers....<br>
Dr. Hamlin's hospital treats 2,500 women annually in Ethiopia, but each year 8,500 Ethiopian women develop new fistulas. In Nigeria, the Ministry of Women's Affairs estimates that some 800,000 women have unrepaired fistulas. In most countries, no one bothers to estimate the number of sufferers.<br>
"These are the women most to be pitied in the world," said Dr. Hamlin. "They're alone in the world, ashamed of their injuries. For lepers, or AIDS victims, there are organizations that help. But nobody knows about these women or helps them."</blockquote>There's more from Kristof about the woman and her story <a href="http://forums.nytimes.com/webin/WebX?50@@.f3beae7">here</a>.<br>
<small>I posted this because it was something interesting I found on the web that I had never heard of and thought most MeFites wouldn't have heard of. I realize MeFi is not a public service bulletin board. But the effect of reading the article was so powerful that I immediately went to the <a href="http://www.guidestar.org/controller/searchResults.gs?action_donateReport=1&partner=networkforgood&ein=77-0547201">Network for Good site</a> and donated. Just sayin'.</small>comment:www.metafilter.com,2003:site.25883-492482Tue, 20 May 2003 09:33:33 -0800languagehatBy: aacheson
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Wow. I know where I am sending my donations next... the 34 million drive.
Good god. I really cannot imagine the horrors women of the world go though. I cannot imagine the indignities and terrors women must live though everyday. I am so lucky, so lucky indeed.
Dr. Hamlin does deserve the Nobel Peace Prize. Amazing.comment:www.metafilter.com,2003:site.25883-492491Tue, 20 May 2003 09:39:47 -0800aachesonBy: fold_and_mutilate
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Excellent post, languagehat. Thank you. They get support from me as well.comment:www.metafilter.com,2003:site.25883-492502Tue, 20 May 2003 09:49:46 -0800fold_and_mutilateBy: quonsar
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languagehat made this great post
and it was so informative on
a very troubling situation that
most are unaware of that even
cold-hearted quonsar felt compelled to go
immediately to <a href="http://www.guidestar.org/controller/searchResults.gs?action_donateReport=1&partner=networkforgood&ein=77-0547201">the donation site</a> and almost forgot all about snarking on the inventive formatting.comment:www.metafilter.com,2003:site.25883-492522Tue, 20 May 2003 10:12:37 -0800quonsarBy: dabitch
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just almost though. great post. *shivers after reading*comment:www.metafilter.com,2003:site.25883-492525Tue, 20 May 2003 10:18:18 -0800dabitchBy: widdershins
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Languagehat, thank you very much. I have joined the ranks of aacheson, foldy & quonsar (eek!) and donated. I hope she does win the Nobel prize for the money and recognition and publicity - she richly deserves it.comment:www.metafilter.com,2003:site.25883-492531Tue, 20 May 2003 10:24:10 -0800widdershinsBy: dejah420
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Wow. I feel so blessed that I had access to good doctors and a surgery when I had my baby. Color me as one of the donators too.comment:www.metafilter.com,2003:site.25883-492565Tue, 20 May 2003 11:00:54 -0800dejah420By: Hildago
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This needs a lot more publicity. Good post, languagehat.comment:www.metafilter.com,2003:site.25883-492573Tue, 20 May 2003 11:12:51 -0800HildagoBy: serafinapekkala
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great post, and a great link to the UN program site...the money raised will support not only the efforts of Dr. Hamlin, but similar reproductive health campaigns, for maternal care, HIV/AIDS awareness and prevention, and more all over the world...of the current administration's many (in my view) screw-ups, the de-funding of UNFPA is possibly the most inhumane...like so many other problems in the developing world, if Americans were suffering this way (not like there isn't any suffering here either, but...) wouldn't we put a stop to it? i sent them some money, but i don't feel much better...comment:www.metafilter.com,2003:site.25883-492576Tue, 20 May 2003 11:13:57 -0800serafinapekkalaBy: homunculus
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Here's an article about <a href=http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2003/05/02/unfpa_friends/index.html>Jane Roberts and Lois Abraham</a>, the founders of 34 Million Friends.comment:www.metafilter.com,2003:site.25883-492584Tue, 20 May 2003 11:28:20 -0800homunculusBy: MiguelCardoso
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Sometimes everything - something interesting, something worthy, something uplifting, form serving content - just comes together beautifully, as it did in this post. Thanks, languagehat, for this lesson in usefulness and sheer posting intelligence.comment:www.metafilter.com,2003:site.25883-492586Tue, 20 May 2003 11:29:06 -0800MiguelCardosoBy: O9scar
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I heard about this via email this morning, and put aside my usual indifference long enough to donate <a href="http://www.unfpa.org/">here</a> and also <a href="http://www.wfmic.org/">here</a>.comment:www.metafilter.com,2003:site.25883-492589Tue, 20 May 2003 11:31:01 -0800O9scarBy: dash_slot-
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Bloody hell.
Bookmarking for reading at more prosperous time.
Miguel: what are your <em>feelings</em>?comment:www.metafilter.com,2003:site.25883-492601Tue, 20 May 2003 11:46:54 -0800dash_slot-By: alms
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Vagino-rectal fistulas are also common in the USA, <a href="http://www.geocities.com/dinimerz/rectovaginal_fistula.htm">often a result of inappropriate medical care</a>. This just happened to a friend of mine when her OB gave her a surprise episiotomy while she was delivering her baby. (I call it a surprise because he didn't talk to her, her husband, or her other coach in the room before doing it.)
While not nearly as terrible as it is in the less-developed world, the condition is unecessarily common in the first world, and is often not treated properly when it occurs.comment:www.metafilter.com,2003:site.25883-492650Tue, 20 May 2003 13:02:05 -0800almsBy: Plunge
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Gah, while I keep feeling that I didn't need to read something like that today, I guess there is never a time when you want to see something like that. It is a condition I've never heard of nor seen.
Great, if disturbing, post. Truly lets us know how much more needs to be done.comment:www.metafilter.com,2003:site.25883-492657Tue, 20 May 2003 13:17:55 -0800PlungeBy: Songdog
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The article says that "Americans haven't commonly suffered fistulas since the 19th century." While this may be true of obstetric fistulas, other types of fistulas occur in a signficant percentage of patients with Crohn's Disease or ulcerative colitis (which afflict two million people in America alone).
That said, I have the highest respect for doctors who do this kind of work. Thanks for posting this, languagehat!comment:www.metafilter.com,2003:site.25883-492658Tue, 20 May 2003 13:18:47 -0800SongdogBy: languagehat
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Thanks, everyone, for the kind words, and special thanks to those who donated. (And extra-special thanks to quonsar for snarking so gently. I'm not normally concerned with design when I post, but I wanted it to stand out somehow so people would <i>pay attention</i>.)
<i>...while I keep feeling that I didn't need to read something like that today, I guess there is never a time when you want to see something like that.</i>
I know what you mean; that's exactly how I felt when I read the Kristof article.comment:www.metafilter.com,2003:site.25883-492668Tue, 20 May 2003 13:32:00 -0800languagehatBy: madamjujujive
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Wow, I appreciate this post languagehat - I never heard of this ghastly condition before, or the work of this wonderful doctor. This post sure puts some things in perspective. I thought I was having a bad day, but I guess not really.comment:www.metafilter.com,2003:site.25883-492751Tue, 20 May 2003 15:52:53 -0800madamjujujiveBy: dg
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As if women do not have to suffer enough through childbirth as it is. The article deals with the way these women are shunned in Ethiopia, but don't think for a moment that they would not be equally shunned in any western country, if not more so. It lifts my heart to see people working for others so selflessly and makes me despair for the human race a tiny bit less. Puts my problems in perspective a bit, too.comment:www.metafilter.com,2003:site.25883-492752Tue, 20 May 2003 15:54:32 -0800dgBy: kchristidis
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Ouch. That was really shocking. Thanks for enlightening us, languagehat.comment:www.metafilter.com,2003:site.25883-492753Tue, 20 May 2003 15:57:57 -0800kchristidisBy: guy_parsons
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I can only think of how it feels to kind of have the flu, when you constantly feel a bit sub-human and incapable of dealing with the world and your nose is always running and you just feel skank. And then I times that by a million, and then I imagine knowing that I'd have it for the rest of my life.
Sorry to put it in so trivial terms. It's just... horrible.comment:www.metafilter.com,2003:site.25883-492765Tue, 20 May 2003 16:20:22 -0800guy_parsonsBy: FormlessOne
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I'm horrified - I, too, had never heard of this condition. I haven't clicked on a donation site that fast in a long time.comment:www.metafilter.com,2003:site.25883-492794Tue, 20 May 2003 18:11:47 -0800FormlessOneBy: Soliloquy
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Eek. I did not know that. Time to whip out the checkbook...comment:www.metafilter.com,2003:site.25883-492838Tue, 20 May 2003 21:07:30 -0800SoliloquyBy: troutfishing
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!!! <small>[all my comments have been covered already]</small> except - Languagehat=bigheartcomment:www.metafilter.com,2003:site.25883-492853Tue, 20 May 2003 21:45:47 -0800troutfishingBy: hama7
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Thanks for a great post for a good cause, languagehat.comment:www.metafilter.com,2003:site.25883-492901Wed, 21 May 2003 03:27:14 -0800hama7By: deliriouscool
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You know, someone on another list I'm on posted a link to the Kristof article two days ago - and I deleted it. I feel like a jackass, but the 34 million campaign is $10 closer, and only two days late. I keep thinking about that "touch one thing and you'll find it's connected to everything else in the universe" quote. I feel like that right now. Thanks, languagehat. It's a good feeling.comment:www.metafilter.com,2003:site.25883-493158Wed, 21 May 2003 12:38:04 -0800deliriouscoolBy: eptitude
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I'm sure the original Kristof article is very interesting, but I'll be damned if I'm going to pay the New York Times US$2.95 to read the piece. Instead, a few more bucks to the <a href="http://www.guidestar.org/controller/searchResults.gs?action_donateReport=1&partner=networkforgood&ein=77-0547201">Fistula Hospital</a> seems a better way to spend my money.comment:www.metafilter.com,2003:site.25883-494579Sun, 25 May 2003 08:16:07 -0800eptitude
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