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It is clear that there is an intent to destroy the Palestinians in Gaza

deeker — Tue, 16 Sep 2025 01:32:31 -0800

A United Nations commission of inquiry says Israel has committed genocide against Palestinians in Gaza.

The new report (described by the BBC as "detailed and damning") says there are reasonable grounds to conclude that four of the five genocidal acts defined under international law have been carried out since the start of the war with Hamas in 2023: killing members of a group, causing them serious bodily and mental harm, deliberately inflicting conditions calculated to destroy the group, and preventing births. It cites statements by Israeli leaders, and the pattern of conduct by Israeli forces, as evidence of genocidal intent. "The Commission finds that Israel is responsible for the commission of genocide in Gaza," insisted Navi Pillay, Chair of the Commission. "It is clear that there is an intent to destroy the Palestinians in Gaza through acts that meet the criteria set forth in the Genocide Convention." "The responsibility for these atrocity crimes lies with Israeli authorities at the highest echelons who have orchestrated a genocidal campaign for almost two years now with the specific intent to destroy the Palestinian group in Gaza." Israel adamantly rejects the charge that it is committing genocide, saying it strives to avoid civilian casualties, and blames Hamas for putting noncombatants in harm's way. Israel's Foreign Ministry accuses the report's authors of being "Hamas proxies." "The report relies entirely on Hamas falsehoods, laundered and repeated by others," the ministry's statement says. "Israel categorically rejects this distorted and false report and calls for the immediate abolition of this Commission of Inquiry." The report said, however, said that Israel has committed four acts of genocide: 1. Killing members of the group: Palestinians were killed in large numbers through direct attacks on civilians, protected persons, and vital civilian infrastructure, as well as by the deliberate creation of conditions that led to death. 2. Causing serious bodily or mental harm: Palestinians suffered torture, rape, sexual assault, forced displacement, and severe mistreatment in detention, alongside widespread attacks on civilians and the environment. 3. Inflicting conditions of life calculated to destroy the group: Israel deliberately imposed inhumane living conditions in Gaza, including destruction of essential infrastructure, denial of medical care, forced displacement, blocking of food, water, fuel, and electricity, reproductive violence, and starvation as a method of warfare. Children were found to be particularly targeted. 4. Preventing births within the group: The attack on Gaza's largest fertility clinic destroyed thousands of embryos, sperm samples, and eggs. Experts told the commission this would prevent thousands of Palestinian children from ever being born. In addition to the genocidal acts, the investigation concluded that the Israeli authorities and security forces have the genocidal intent to destroy, in whole or in part, the Palestinians in the Gaza Strip Genocidal intent is often the hardest to prove in any genocide case. But the authors of the report have found "fully conclusive evidence" of such intent. They cited statements made by Israeli authorities, including President Isaac Herzog, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Yoav Gallant - who served as defence minister for much of the war - as direct evidence of genocidal intent. The commission said it identified six patterns of conduct by Israeli forces in Gaza that support an inference of genocidal intent: 1. Mass killings: Israeli forces have killed and seriously harmed an unprecedented number of Palestinians since 7 October 2023, mostly civilians, using heavy munitions in densely populated areas. By 15 July 2025, 83 percent of those killed were civilians, the report found. Nearly half were women and children. 2 Cultural destruction: The systematic leveling of homes, schools, mosques, churches, and cultural sites was cited as evidence of an effort to erase Palestinian identity. 3. Deliberate suffering: Despite three provisional orders from the ICJ and repeated international warnings, Israel continued policies knowing Palestinians were trapped and unable to flee, the commission said. 4. Collapse of healthcare: Israeli forces targeted Gaza's healthcare system, attacking hospitals, killing and abusing medical personnel, and blocking vital supplies and patient evacuations. 5. Sexual violence: Investigators documented sexualised torture, rape, and other forms of gender-based violence, describing them as tools of collective punishment. 6. Targeting children: Children were shot by snipers and drones, including during evacuations and at shelters, with some killed while carrying white flag. Pillay, the Chair of the Commission, has a piece in the NYT: "What does this mean for the international community? It means its obligations are not optional. Every state has an obligation to prevent genocide wherever it occurs. That obligation requires action: halting the transfer of weapons and military support used in genocidal acts, ensuring unimpeded humanitarian assistance, stopping the mass displacement and destruction, and using all available diplomatic and legal means to stop the killing. To do nothing is not neutrality. It is complicity."

By: the north sea

the north sea — Tue, 16 Sep 2025 02:03:10 -0800

And I woke this morning to news that IOF forces are advancing in great numbers on the starved and terrorised people of Gaza City. As of 20 minutes ago, "it estimates 40% of the residents have already fled"—so the vast majority remain. An IOF spokesperson told the Guardian : "We are expecting to see on the battlefield somewhere between 2,000 and 3,000 terrorists in Gaza City." We know, because they have told us, that, in their worldview, "the battlefield" is the whole of Gaza, and all Palestinians are "terrorists".

By: ver

ver — Tue, 16 Sep 2025 03:03:23 -0800

I'm not sure who gets tried for violation of the international law Genocide Convention, does it include UK / US arms companies and politicians?

By: Higherfasterforwards

Higherfasterforwards — Tue, 16 Sep 2025 03:37:34 -0800

In what is supposed to be my happy place, More countries in eurovision are saying they'll drop out if Israel stays. Of course what happens once Israel has destroyed everything? Do they still boycott or shrug and say they've stopped

By: Smedly, Butlerian jihadi

Smedly, Butlerian jihadi — Tue, 16 Sep 2025 04:40:14 -0800

The post hoc illusion of WWII is that that the great Western powers oppose genocide and seek to be on the morally correct side of history as a matter of principle. Some people sought to make these myths true as a matter of international law, but as ever, the commitment to principle is measured when it comes into conflict with material or geopolitical interest. In which case, as with so many of the stories we tell ourselves, commitments to moral principle are revealed as so much tissue paper: quickly ripped by any stress whatsoever, but reapplied afterwards to provide the appearance of respectability. An appearance that can be easily seen through if one wishes.

By: ver

ver — Tue, 16 Sep 2025 05:04:00 -0800

But that appearance is unmaintainable now: the UN is publishing articles in the New York Times denouncing the genocide. What happens next?

By: toastyk

toastyk — Tue, 16 Sep 2025 05:19:53 -0800

I would like to know what happens next.

By: robot_jesus

robot_jesus — Tue, 16 Sep 2025 05:20:20 -0800

By: Kutsuwamushi

Kutsuwamushi — Tue, 16 Sep 2025 05:37:18 -0800

I would like to know what happens next. I suspect it's arresting more members of Palestine Action.

By: mrjohnmuller

mrjohnmuller — Tue, 16 Sep 2025 05:49:17 -0800

The fact that Israel is waging a campaign of genocide has been extremely obvious for a while, to all but the most bad-faith genocide deniers and genocide apologists. Now we get to see if having it officially labeled as such by the UN has any effect on the ongoing depravity and slaughter. Personally, I think that unless the UN is prepared to send in an international peacekeeping mission into the region to disarm Israel and force a ceasefire, and maintain a permanent peacekeeping presence in Palestine/Israel to see that hostilities don't reignite, then I'm not sure if it's gonna be enough.

By: Frowner

Frowner — Tue, 16 Sep 2025 05:50:55 -0800

Yeah, and what are they going to do about it? Wring their hands and cry more phony tears until everyone is dead and the condos are built? If you can't figure out that a genocide is going on until just about two years in, what fucking good are you? Truly hellbound, enjoy looking up from the fiery pit.

By: Frowner

Frowner — Tue, 16 Sep 2025 05:51:53 -0800

By: Your Childhood Pet Rock

Your Childhood Pet Rock — Tue, 16 Sep 2025 05:53:26 -0800

And all it took for them to reach this bold conclusion was two years of constant bombardment, at least 67,000 deaths (with the significant majority being non-combatants), a famine, and the absolute annihilation of nearly every structure in the Gaza Strip. Welcome to the world of international diplomacy. First time? The one thing that I'm terrified of is the US pulling out of the United Nations to continue supplying weapons. The US has always been loathe to sign anything that might violate its sovereign right to make people miserable and with TFG as head of the executive branch I'm not sure he won't pull that trigger. Then what happens if the world at large start arresting members of the executive branch who happily continue to be complicit in the genocide? Given that the US has a Hague invasion statute on the books I'm not fond of all these scenarios where seemingly unstoppable forces meet immovable objects.

By: Your Childhood Pet Rock

Your Childhood Pet Rock — Tue, 16 Sep 2025 05:55:28 -0800

The whole world saw two million extremely vulnerable people getting tortured and murdered and decided to make it a firing offense to mention the fact, absolutely god rot anyone who hasn't been loud about this from go. To be fair, ignoring similar things going on in Africa is a sport Western nations and most of their citizens could gold medal in.

By: Your Childhood Pet Rock

Your Childhood Pet Rock — Tue, 16 Sep 2025 05:57:24 -0800

Personally, I think that unless the UN is prepared to send in an international peacekeeping mission into the region to disarm Israel and force a ceasefire, and maintain a permanent peacekeeping presence in Palestine/Israel to see that hostilities don't reignite, then I'm not sure if it's gonna be enough. That would require the security council to assent. It would also be one of the few things that the US and Russia would agree on as they both immediately veto the shit out of it.

By: mrjohnmuller

mrjohnmuller — Tue, 16 Sep 2025 06:20:09 -0800

Yeah, having the US and Russia being permanent members of the security council is a lot like having John Wayne Gacy Jr. and Ed Gein being the heads of the local neighbourhood watch. Definitely not ideal.

By: Thorzdad

Thorzdad — Tue, 16 Sep 2025 06:33:16 -0800

I would like to know what happens next. The US fulfills a 70+ year-old right-wing dream of quitting the UN and kicking it out of the country? I'm honestly amazed TFG didn't do that the first time around.

By: mydonkeybenjamin

mydonkeybenjamin — Tue, 16 Sep 2025 06:37:41 -0800

>>Personally, I think that unless the UN is prepared to send in an international peacekeeping mission into the region to disarm Israel and force a ceasefire, and maintain a permanent peacekeeping presence in Palestine/Israel to see that hostilities don't reignite, then I'm not sure if it's gonna be enough. >That would require the security council to assent. It would also be one of the few things that the US and Russia would agree on as they both immediately veto the shit out of it. The UN General Assembly could mandate an international protection force for Palestine based on the "Uniting for Peace" precedent. There would be no legal impediment to this as the State of Palestine has repeatedly called for an international protection force to be sent to protect Palestinians, and Israel has no right to exercise any kind of authority in Gaza and the West Bank as it is illegally occupying this territory. Practically things are of course different, but Israel might find it harder politically to attack actual navies rather than civilian flotillas. Article about this here: "How the UN could act today to stop the genocide in Palestine" (Craig Mokhiber)

By: Smedly, Butlerian jihadi

Smedly, Butlerian jihadi — Tue, 16 Sep 2025 06:56:32 -0800

But that appearance is unmaintainable now: the UN is publishing articles in the New York Times denouncing the genocide. What happens next? The tissue paper will be reapplied, however gracelessly. The monsters will always tell us they are wonderful people, and their money assures that the press organs of the establishment will echo their claims, entirely regardless of any other things published.

By: Pseudonymous Cognomen

Pseudonymous Cognomen — Tue, 16 Sep 2025 08:26:13 -0800

at least 67,000 deaths The actual number is likely ten times that many; even the former chief of staff of the IDF admits it's multiple hundreds of thousands.

By: eustatic

eustatic — Tue, 16 Sep 2025 08:50:24 -0800

Yeah, how that bear hug doing I really wanted the pier to work, but we should have given the job to Korea

By: MattD

MattD — Tue, 16 Sep 2025 08:53:57 -0800

The short answer of what the UN can do is nothing, but that's not specific or special to Israel. The UN can only enforce its will on militarily-incompetent states/regimes. It has never had any practical authority over militarily-competent powers, to say the least of nuclear powers like Israel. No one other than Iran and their Hezbollah and Houthi agents feels strongly enough about Palestinians to oppose Israel militarily on their nominal behalf, particularly given that Israel has shown the capability and will to respond forcefully to such opposition.

By: toastyk

toastyk — Tue, 16 Sep 2025 09:34:23 -0800

Mehdi Hasan talks to the UN Commissioners Chair Navi Pillay and commissioner Chris Sidoti, both of whom are set to resign soon.

By: CosmicSands

CosmicSands — Tue, 16 Sep 2025 09:45:39 -0800

My mother is a well-meaning but naive liberal Zionist who, as of our last conversation, held out hope that Israel was not committing genocide. I wonder if this report will help her come to terms with the reality that they are. In the absence of UN action, it would do a lot of good for the US to stop providing weapons to Israel, as the UN Human Rights Council is now recommending. Trump, who has repeatedly demonstrated that he has no principles, might be more likely to cave in to sufficiently forceful public demands to cut off military aid than the Zionist true believer Biden.

By: away for regrooving

away for regrooving — Tue, 16 Sep 2025 10:01:44 -0800

Thinking what's infinitely more likely from that guy is issuing a proclamation that the U.N. is an antisemitic terrorist organization.

By: porpoise

porpoise — Tue, 16 Sep 2025 10:43:01 -0800

"Here is the reason why markets in Gaza are 'full' while we starve" [al jazeera opinion]

By: sotonohito

sotonohito — Tue, 16 Sep 2025 12:08:00 -0800

I am confident that Trump won't yield to pressure to stop supporting Israel. He may not be a zionist true believer, he doesn't seem to believe in anything but himself and his own gains, but the way he's been talking about taking ownership of Gaza and using his supposed real estate genius to turn it into a glowing tourism zone producing massive profits isn't likely to be going away anytime soon. And, while Trump may not be all in on Israel, and while he'sdefinitely antisemetic, Trump really fucking hates Muslims. I'm pretty sure he'd be all in on Israel's genocide even without the Gaza strip fantasy, they're killing Muslims. As for the finding, I'm both glad and disappointed since we all know it will amount to nothing. Actually stopping genocide would require completely abandoning the Westphilian ideas of national sovrignity and establishing if not a transnational military capable of invading and forcibly disarming and policing any nation committing genocide, at least it'd require a serious alliance between major powers which agree not only to invade and conquer any nation committing genocide, but for the signatories to agree to attack any of their fellow allaince members who commit genocide. Which is just plain not going to happen for a long time, if ever. I'm not saying it's wrong, or bad, for this study to have taken place. Far from it, this is a good thing and Im strongly in favor of organizations calling the genocide a genocide. But I don't expect it to do much either. The only nations that get invaded to stop genocides are tiny nations of no global importance. Like when Clinton intervened to stop the Bosnian genocide. Important nations like China, Russia, and Israel? They're free to commit genocide. Who's going to stop them? And as long as the answer to that question is a general shuffling of feet and shame facedly glancing around, then genocide will continue to happen.

By: ftrtts

ftrtts — Wed, 17 Sep 2025 07:30:13 -0800

Well, you'll never go broke predicting everything's fucked. I am also skeptical that any country will send their military to defend Palestine even if that's their obligation under international law. But I don't think the report means nothing. It feels disrespectful to me, as someone outside of Palestine, to speak in such simplistic terms. This report is a top-down finding by the commission, but it is also the result of pressure by ordinary people to make it undeniable that what's happening is a genocide, to refuse to pretend otherwise. It's not enough, it's not nearly enough, but it is a step forward.

By: toastyk

toastyk — Wed, 17 Sep 2025 11:53:24 -0800

It appears to be a permission structure for a lot of people to finally say the truth: Sen Bernie Sanders now calls it a genocide.

By: toastyk

toastyk — Wed, 17 Sep 2025 11:56:13 -0800

Jewish House Democrat Rep Becca Balint calls it a genocide.

By: adrienneleigh

adrienneleigh — Wed, 17 Sep 2025 14:16:02 -0800

eustatic: "I really wanted the pier to work, but we should have given the job to Korea" The pier worked perfectly for its intended purposes! It distracted everyone from the blockade and the incipient famine, and it provided staging for the IDF to do a couple "raids" and slaughter a bunch of innocent people. Your mistake is in thinking the purpose of it was to help Palestinians. But that was never what it was actually for!

By: mydonkeybenjamin

mydonkeybenjamin — Wed, 17 Sep 2025 16:40:45 -0800

I can understand why people feel frustrated and cynical about the fact that it took the Commission so long to issue a report clearly stating that Israel is committing genocide. But we have to remember that they do their own investigation, verify all facts themselves, and are mandated to collect evidence that can be used later in criminal trials. This all takes time and they are severely understaffed and underfunded. In fact they clearly signaled in their March 2025 report that they believed Israel was committing genocide (if anyone's interested I can post details later), so no government should be surprised by the conclusions in the current report. Plus states know quite well that their duty to prevent genocide (under the 1948 Genocide Convention and customary international law) arose FAR earlier, at least from the time the International Court of Justice issued its first provisional orders against Israel in January 2024. So they can't hide behind the fact that the Commission took so long to issue this report. Overall the legal/humanitarian side of the UN has done what it's supposed to do and has in many cases gone above and beyond with the individuals involved making a lot of personal sacrifices; it's the political side and individual governments that have failed us (as Craig Mokhiber pointed out in the article I posted earlier). The pressure to stop this genocide is building so let's keep doing whatever we can to pressure governments to fulfill their legal obligation to protect the Palestinian people and end Israel's illegal occupation.

By: Didymus

Didymus — Wed, 17 Sep 2025 19:36:50 -0800

Good point mdb I can't look at the UN's actions in the past 2 years and say "There's the problem" Most so-called western democracies have failed utterly, and at least the commission has made a statement that will persist in time. For what it's worth.

By: toastyk

toastyk — Thu, 18 Sep 2025 08:23:45 -0800

As of 2024, there are 38 states with anti-BDS laws on the books. Mahmoud Khalil is now being ordered by an immigration judge to be deported to Algeria or Syria. Jerry Greenfield of Ben & Jerry's just resigned after fighting Unilever for years being unable to do the activism he wanted to do. Progressive, liberal blue state CA just unanimously signed off on AB 715, a bill on "anti-semitism prevention" a lot of people interpret to be targeting pro-Palestinian activists/educators, to be sent to Gavin Newsom for signature soon. Meanwhile, Trump is doing the Biden thing of "being furious" with Netanyahu but not publicly breaking with him. The invasion of Gaza goes on, killing scores of people every single day.

By: Pseudonymous Cognomen

Pseudonymous Cognomen — Thu, 18 Sep 2025 15:35:02 -0800

s of 2024, there are 38 states with anti-BDS laws on the books. As a US citizen, it's just awesome having my free speech rights abrogated on behalf of a fascist settler colony.

By: eustatic

eustatic — Thu, 18 Sep 2025 19:31:10 -0800

eustatic: "I really wanted the pier to work, but we should have given the job to Korea" The pier worked perfectly for its intended purposes! nah. being this cynical is the easy way out, unfortunately

By: adrienneleigh

adrienneleigh — Thu, 18 Sep 2025 19:48:27 -0800

I'm not being cynical. I'm stating the obvious: Joseph Robinette Biden loves Palestinian genocide, he is 100% in favor of it, but he wanted to distract people because he was getting criticism for how much he loves it.

By: Kitten as a cat

Kitten as a cat — Thu, 18 Sep 2025 22:17:46 -0800

The reasons for the pier are not entirely clear, it was never rated to provide the amount of aid required, an amount that could be delivered via existing borders and roads. Yes, the IDF would not and has not allowed the aid required to enter via borders and roads, but that is not an obviously insurmountable problem for a US president. The president could, for example, threaten to cut off weapons, or heaven forbid let the UN sanction Israel for its occupation and genocide.

By: toastyk

toastyk — Fri, 19 Sep 2025 06:02:39 -0800

FYI the Italian port workers made good on their promise and have blocked arms for Israel. Spain threatens to boycott the World Cup if Israel qualifies for 2026. The Economist has a weirdly written article about how Israel is losing America. Not going to link but the right wing division continues as Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens fight with the Zionist right over Charlie Kirk's real thoughts and evolution on Israel.

By: toastyk

toastyk — Fri, 19 Sep 2025 07:04:40 -0800

Sen Merkley leads call for recognition of a Palestinian state in the Senate.

By: eustatic

eustatic — Fri, 19 Sep 2025 17:10:49 -0800

still seems cynical. how are we going to get food into Gaza or send a military force? you're still left with the Pier, or to build a port. Air drops? how are your going to secure an economic exchange of goods? it's cynical to complain about Biden, years and years after that was a relevant thing

By: adrienneleigh

adrienneleigh — Fri, 19 Sep 2025 19:31:22 -0800

eustatic: "still seems cynical. how are we going to get food into Gaza or send a military force? you're still left with the Pier, or to build a port. Air drops?" You get that there are border crossings and roads, right? The only "logistical" challenge involved is that Israel is trying to commit genocide, and at literally any fucking point in time the US could make them shut up and open those border crossings and roads? For that matter, even if you're talking about ocean delivery there doesn't need to be a "temporary pier" organized by the US, because the only "logistical" problem with aid getting to Gaza by ship is that Israel maintains a completely illegal blockade. (I mean, yes, piers would be helpful, but there are plenty of ways to organize aid delivery by boat without much infrastructure.) And again, at literally any fucking point in time the US could make them stop doing that.

By: eustatic

eustatic — Fri, 19 Sep 2025 19:50:49 -0800

I wish you luck on changing Israel's mind, then? Is that the strategy?

By: sagc

sagc — Fri, 19 Sep 2025 20:06:19 -0800

someone is Just Asking Questions.

By: adrienneleigh

adrienneleigh — Fri, 19 Sep 2025 20:07:58 -0800

eustatic: "I wish you luck on changing Israel's mind, then? Is that the strategy?" To quote the great Admiral Naismith aka Miles Vorkosigan (a character created by Lois McMaster Bujold), "A weapon is a device for making your enemy change his mind."

By: Kitten as a cat

Kitten as a cat — Fri, 19 Sep 2025 20:14:27 -0800

Eustatic, you must acknowledge the pier was a comparatively inefficient means of getting aid to Palestinians. Given it's short life, limited utility, and possible use as a platform for assault, do you really think it was a serious attempt at helping the situation? I'm not saying I know the exact reasons for its existence, in some ways it feels like a solution stemming from engineers disease. I have heard conspiratorial suggestions of it being an experiment for other potential conflicts, but you wouldn't need to go to Palestine to run a test... Sorry for the edit. I forgot to mention the possibility of politicians logic playing into it somehow. I.e. Something must be done, this is something, therefore it must be done.

By: mbo

mbo — Sat, 20 Sep 2025 01:10:17 -0800

Europe's navies should be leading and defending an armada, small boats like the current armada at sea can handle landing aid. Israel's not going to war against Europe

By: nobody_truncates

nobody_truncates — Sat, 20 Sep 2025 04:03:34 -0800

Europe's navies should be leading and defending an armada, small boats like the current armada at sea can handle landing aid. Israel's not going to war against Europe the european government currently most critical of the genocide is unfortunately perhaps reluctant to do armadas in particular for historical reasons. more seriously: european military involvement (in that direction) seems vanishingly unlikely.

By: toastyk

toastyk — Sat, 20 Sep 2025 07:21:53 -0800

Even before we get to military options, there are still the very basic steps of: 1. Allowing citizens to protest the government in a lawful manner without being persecuted for their opinions, especially on university campuses. 2. Ensuring the government actually follows the laws on its books, which neither Biden nor Trump cared about. 3. Getting the government/local institutions to divest financially from the things their constituents asked for. 4. Sanctions. 5. Arresting people wanted by the ICC for war crimes. Prosecuting them to the fullest extent of international law. 6. Not sending money for bombs per the wishes of 80% of the voting population. 7. Enforcing the statutes on the books long before Oct 7. 8. Enforce material consequences for Israel breaking every one of its ceasefire agreements. What is actually happening: 1. There are now 49 people co-sponsoring HR 3565 Block the Bombs Act as of this week. 2. As noted above, Sen Jeff Merkley introduced a resolution calling for the recognition of a Palestinian state and a ceasefire. I think there were 7 Senators who signed on. 3. Some countries are threatening to pull out of Eurovision if Israel participates. 4. Spain is threatening to pull out of the World Cup if Israel qualifies. 5. People who participate in protests or engage in free speech in the US are being deported, threatened, or harmed. People who support Palestine Action in the UK are getting arrested. Media in the US is getting bought up and consolidated by pro-Israel/pro-Trump forces. TikTok hired a former IDF soldier to handle social media anti-Semitism and that is going exactly as expected. Republicans are getting together with AIPAC to oust anti-Israel conservatives. Democratic elites refuse to endorse Mamdani because he's "anti-Jewish".

By: toastyk

toastyk — Sat, 20 Sep 2025 09:32:01 -0800

Speaking of military deterrence, Netanyahu is asking the US to pressure Egypt to scale down their military buildup. Saudi Arabia signed a defense pact with Pakistan, which is opening up with other Arab nations. Unfortunately none of those actions are about protecting Palestinians.

By: adrienneleigh

adrienneleigh — Sat, 20 Sep 2025 13:48:51 -0800

Last week Israel deliberately murdered 31 journalists (and 4 other people, and wounded another hundred-plus) in Yemen. This was an attack specifically on media outlets; it's like if someone bombed the New York Times Building.

By: adrienneleigh

adrienneleigh — Sat, 20 Sep 2025 13:50:23 -0800

(As a reminder for the genocide apologists among us: buildings full of journalists are not, in fact, lawful military targets even if some of the journalists in question do work for the Army's press office.)

By: nobody_truncates

nobody_truncates — Sat, 20 Sep 2025 15:15:58 -0800

re: the palestine action crackdown and the very basic steps: there's some indication that that sort of direct action is in fact effective, as will hopefully eventually be other such actions (pretty sure the latter story at least was already covered in a recent post/comment; apologies if a duplicate).

By: nobody_truncates

nobody_truncates — Sun, 21 Sep 2025 09:24:47 -0800

distractions that were correctly not included in the list of very basic steps

By: biffa

biffa — Sun, 21 Sep 2025 10:21:39 -0800

UK, Canada and Australia recognise state of Palestine.

By: nobody_truncates

nobody_truncates — Sun, 21 Sep 2025 11:51:51 -0800

why does keir starmer's speech announcing the UK recognition of Palestine even mention Israel? it's a non-sequitur in this context, why is it there? is the drive to occupy and colonise so irresistible that they even had to annex some space in that vapid spiritually constipated mediocrity's teleprompter? i guess, being a british teleprompter, it deserves it, but still.

By: adrienneleigh

adrienneleigh — Sun, 21 Sep 2025 14:35:45 -0800

The countries that are recognizing Palestine right now are, unfortunately, basically just doing it to cover their asses. Are they going to stop sending weapons? Nope. Are they going to stop cracking down on anti-genocide protestors? hahahahahahahah nope.

By: Didymus

Didymus — Sun, 21 Sep 2025 15:49:24 -0800

The "War" in Gaza is Not Really Taking Place chriswaves via F.D Signifier, excellent 23 min YT video. Good callback to Baudrillard

By: toastyk

toastyk — Mon, 22 Sep 2025 05:48:59 -0800

Thank you Didymus, that was a good video. I'm going to have to go back to it. Today, speaking of concrete actions - the Sumud Flotilla is sailing into the "yellow zone" and Israel has been buying Google ads describing the flotilla as "harboring terror". Italian workers strike in solidarity with Gaza. In the saga of Charlie Kirk conspiracies, a former Mossad chief denies ever participating in political assassinations. Israel has killed 29 since dawn this morning. They also killed a Lebanese family over the weekend, and their American citizenship is being disputed. Also Israel is refusing to withdraw from Syria's buffer zone during talks. Other actions: 400+ artists have signed onto No Music for Genocide. Bjork pulls her music from streaming in Israel. According to the Daily Mail, Dua Lipa fired her agent after he signed a letter to drop Kneecap from Glastonbury. Film Workers for Palestine pledges not to screen films, appear at or otherwise work with Israeli film institutions—including festivals, cinemas, broadcasters and production companies—that are implicated* in genocide and apartheid against the Palestinian people. Israel is supposedly scrambling to prevent a vote on Tuesday from UEFA on expelling Israel after the Doha strike - "I'm surprised we're still part of international tournaments. In many aspects, this is a miracle," Barzel told the Globes outlet in an interview published Friday, adding that "historically, countries have been suspended for much less." The Congressional Progressive Caucus has endorsed the Block the Bombs Act - HR 3565 - even as the US is seeking congressional approval for $6 billion in new arms sales to Israel.

By: adrienneleigh

adrienneleigh — Mon, 22 Sep 2025 15:59:50 -0800

Also, Italy is doing something that looks an awful lot like a general strike today, in support of Palestine.

By: toastyk

toastyk — Mon, 22 Sep 2025 20:57:10 -0800

Kamala Harris pulls back the curtain on Biden's "inadequate" response to Gaza and also whines about protesters. US envoy Tom Barrack is very direct - The U.S. is arming the Lebanese military "so they can fight their own people," Tom Barrack says. He adds that we are not arming them to fight Israel (which has bombed Lebanon steadily since agreeing to a ceasefire). Likewise Israel's Innovation Minister "We'll make Gaza uninhabitable until the population leaves, & we'll do the same in [the West Bank]" Glad everyone's being honest now.

By: adrienneleigh

adrienneleigh — Mon, 22 Sep 2025 21:48:12 -0800

"One day, everyone will always have been against this."

By: Pseudonymous Cognomen

Pseudonymous Cognomen — Tue, 23 Sep 2025 09:21:40 -0800

Kamala Harris... whines about protesters. "The threat to withhold their vote got to me. It felt reckless," she writes. "The issue was not binary, but the outcome of this election certainly was." Ths issue absolutely was binary; it was very obvious in late 2023 then that Israel was committing genocide, and she supported it anyway. Her campaign was absolute shit on the issue and pro-Israel Democrats honestly have no-one but themselves to blame for getting Trump elected.

By: eustatic

eustatic — Tue, 23 Sep 2025 16:54:34 -0800

it is wild to read a speech like this from Biden, and then think that they couldn't see how they would be destroying hope, democracy and the rule of law by supporting Israel

By: cendawanita

cendawanita — Tue, 23 Sep 2025 20:00:07 -0800

Had hoped to see an update one way or another but in the meantime, from Monday: Exclusive: US could hit entire International Criminal Court with sanctions soon. seeing live reports of the flotilla being attacked.

By: sotonohito

sotonohito — Tue, 23 Sep 2025 20:30:59 -0800

"The threat to withhold their vote got to me. It felt reckless," she writes. "The issue was not binary, but the outcome of this election certainly was." I continue to note that threats to withhold votes are only evil, only divisive, only purity politics, when it is the people opposing genocide who make those threats. The counterpoint, the implicit threat by the pro-genocide faction to withhold their votes if Harris didn't embrace the genocide was not described as evil, divisive, purity politics, or anything else negative. That vote withholding was portrayed as an inflexible force of nature, as impersonal as gravity and inevitable as entropy. "Harris will lose votes if she opposes Israel's genocide" and similar statements were bandied about and their use of the passive voice, their framing of the pro-genocide faction withholding their vote as "losing votes" as opposed to the anti-genocide faction withholding their votes being framed as "withholding votes" illustrates the way that sort of thinking, that sort of framing, that sort of unconscious decision about who is legitimate and who is not, enshrines the pro-genocide voters as special, above reproach, and never to blame for anything bad that happens due to their divisive, purity politics, vote withholding. So I'm unsurprised to see Harris continuing to frame opponents of genocide as the weird outlier who must be firmly told to STFU and vote blue no matter who. The question, always, is who is seen as legitimate? Because it is the people graced with legitimacy who are centered as the norm, the inevitable faceless force that is never seen as divisive or wrong. And in modern US politics the factions granted the status of legitimate are always, without fail, the more rightward factions. It is always, and only, people who want progress who are framed as deviants, divisive, splitters, IDpol, vote withholders, and of course, the people who are blamed for any electoral loss. So. Yeah. Harris says it's those wicked anti-genocide people who are reckless and divisive. Of course she does. Because, to Harris, genocide is normative and non-controversial. It might be distasteful, she may not revel in it or like it, but for Harris and her ilk genocide is not a dealbreaker. And to her anyone for whom genocide is a dealbreaker is a freak, a bizarre fanatic, a hippie, definitely not someone you deal with as an equal but someone you smack down and tell to behave and stop acting so childish.

By: adrienneleigh

adrienneleigh — Tue, 23 Sep 2025 20:38:27 -0800

Yup, Israel is bombing the Sumud Flotilla in international waters. Again.

By: mydonkeybenjamin

mydonkeybenjamin — Tue, 23 Sep 2025 20:45:14 -0800

Apologies if this has been shared already: "The Spin on Gaza: Those who resigned in protest over the war say its enablers are rewriting history" At the outset of the war, Gilbert was encouraged that Secretary of State Antony Blinken, whom she'd long admired as a dedicated humanitarian, would be responsible for diplomacy. In February 2024, she was one of several experts tasked with investigating whether Israel was blocking humanitarian assistance from entering Gaza. "I've written so many reports that are just crap that no one would read," she says. "This mattered." If Israel was blocking aid, U.S. law required the halt of arms transfers. Consulting with her counterparts in USAID and other agencies, Gilbert made a firm and definitive case that it was. But several weeks before the report was set to be released, State Department brass locked Gilbert and her collaborators out of the draft. When she read the final version, she was shocked: It effectively absolved Israel. "I wasn't sure I read it correctly," she says. "I walked my dog around the block, came back, and read it again. Then I sent the email that I would resign." The same day, Blinken repeated the findings of the edited report to Congress. (Compared with officials who have at least expressed belated concern, Blinken, Gilbert says, is in a "different circle of hell.") Gilbert now intends to take every opportunity to remind the public of the Biden administration's "criminal" failures, formally rebutting officials' claims of innocence and briefing lawmakers on the origins of the humanitarian crisis. "I feel like a zombie hunter," she says. The architects of the Gaza policy "should not come back into public life. If people understood their role in this, they would not be allowed back."

By: mydonkeybenjamin

mydonkeybenjamin — Tue, 23 Sep 2025 22:17:51 -0800

In his address to the UN General Assembly on Sept. 23, the President of Colombia called on the General Assembly to establish a peacekeeping force under Uniting for Peace (from 36:10~), and Colombia will reportedly introduce a draft resolution on this issue. The President of Indonesia, Prabowo Subianto, also stated support for a protection force and said Indonesia would contribute troops, but referred to a force mandated by the Security Council AND the General Assembly, which is not what Colombia is proposing. (Let's also not forget that Prabowo is himself responsible for gross human rights abuses against the people of Timor Leste (East Timor) and West Papua, and also against Indonesian human rights activists, for which he should rightly have been imprisoned long ago.)

By: nobody_truncates

nobody_truncates — Wed, 24 Sep 2025 01:16:14 -0800

mydonkeybenjamin, thanks for posting Petro's speech. Gabriel Boric's wasn't bad either.

By: Frowner

Frowner — Wed, 24 Sep 2025 06:26:19 -0800

And in modern US politics the factions granted the status of legitimate are always, without fail, the more rightward factions. It is always, and only, people who want progress who are framed as deviants, divisive, splitters, IDpol, vote withholders, and of course, the people who are blamed for any electoral loss. This is absolutely true. The cultural undercurrent of the US is that if things are going great and there's plenty of money, we might allow your stupid and childish liberation requests a little bit, for a little while, but the minute things get serious, the lid comes back down. Just...not wanting to be precarious and discriminated against is seen as a frivolous demand, to be indulged by the powers only when there's lots of slack. ~~ I think that people don't take moral climate into account politically when it's obviously very important. It can change pretty fast - I think we've seen that - but that doesn't mean that you should just accept a bad moral climate because it could change. In short, it was extremely foolish to have Americans - especially young Americans, Americans of color, very online Americans and other generally Democratic voters - spend a year watching the Palestinians getting tortured and murdered, college students getting expelled for protesting this, people getting fired for talking about it, and all with the indifference or active support of the Democratic party. The Democratic party decided it was more important to stick with the arms manufacturers and rich donors and be damned to the rest, and then it turns out that even the richest arms manufacturer has only one vote.

By: Frowner

Frowner — Wed, 24 Sep 2025 07:57:37 -0800

Like, in twenty years, if the country and the biome survive that long, people will look back at this period like the Red Scare and they will be absolutely astonished that ordinary citizens got fired from their jobs for simply observing that a lot of civilians were getting killed out of hand with US backing and that those same ordinary citizens often had to be very, very careful not to be identified at peaceful demonstrations in order not to be fired. It will not make sense. It will look stupider and more immoral than the Red Scare. Obviously there are bigger matters at stake, but the sheer cynicism and immorality of our leadership in allowing and encouraging this has done a huge amount of harm to society. "Oh it's fine that people are being fired and expelled for just politely making known a fairly standard and widespread opinion about US foreign policy" - that's absolutely bananas and anyone with any long-term strategic thinking should have understood that.

By: sotonohito

sotonohito — Wed, 24 Sep 2025 09:06:01 -0800

Well, that's one of the core problems. Like the Republicans, the Democrats exist mainly to serve the wealthy. The First Commandment of both Democrats and Republicans is "thou shall not piss off the wealthy donors". Everything else is secondary. And many Democrats would agree, and even agree that it's not a great situation. But they'd also say that without money the Party will flounder and then nothing will get done. It's sort of a corollary to the ironclad rule of organizations. The survival of the organization comes first, and the org can't survive without money. Now, as it happens, I disagree there mainly because I think the Democrats CAN get along without zillionaire money. It ain't like they actually need to saturate swing states with broadcast TV ads or newspaper ads, you know? They don't, actually, need the super wealthy consultants who always tell them the same thing but charge tens if not hundreds of millions to do it. Obviously campaigning costs money, but I'd be really damn surprised if the Democrats are anywhere near as dependent on the flow of money from zillionaires as they like to think they are.

By: toastyk

toastyk — Wed, 24 Sep 2025 14:15:51 -0800

Spain and Italy will send a warship to protect the flotilla. Spanish government approves "total" arms embargo on Israel. Israel killed 85 people today so far according to Al-Jazeera.

By: nobody_truncates

nobody_truncates — Thu, 25 Sep 2025 01:49:25 -0800

Spain and Italy will send a warship to protect the flotilla. i hope i end up having to fully walk back this comment.

By: toastyk

toastyk — Thu, 25 Sep 2025 08:37:50 -0800

Microsoft blocks Israel's use of its technology in mass surveillance of Palestinians after Guardian investigation. Dua Lipa denies Daily Mail report about her firing her agent, clarifying that she doesn't support his views and he hasn't been working for her for years. South Park's latest episode takes aim at Netanyahu. The flotilla is still being attacked. The ground invasion of Gaza continues.

By: mydonkeybenjamin

mydonkeybenjamin — Thu, 25 Sep 2025 17:41:00 -0800

Thanks for posting the news about Microsoft, toastyk. Israel and its supporters want us to feel helpless and hopeless, but in fact all the many actions, big and small, around the globe are having an effect. Let's keep increasing the pressure.

By: toastyk

toastyk — Fri, 26 Sep 2025 06:47:54 -0800

Truly the courage of US politicians is quite breathtaking; in an Axios article that is about Democrats breaking with Israel like never before: "And there are definitely people who won't say genocide but will tell you, 'I know you're right, but I can't use that word,'" the lawmaker said. The new Quinnipiac University Poll shows declining support for Israel. The majority of Germans think Israel is committing genocide. How Israel captured TikTok. Reminder that the pro-Israel, pro-Trump Ellisons are going to be paying Bari Weiss, who made her name harassing Middle Eastern studies professors. to take over CBS. At least 47 dead today. Israelis flip out because Trump says he won't allow them to annex the West Bank, say they should do it anyway. Anyway, the IDF may be running low on munitions, and also since arms embargoes are coming into effect, new munitions may get hard to come by. Israel Hayom also revealed how the IDF plans to handle the new flotilla - basically the same as last time. It should be noted that based on intelligence information gathered in Israel, the flotilla is not only designed to assist Hamas propaganda but was also funded and organized by the organization, meaning the flotilla was intended to be a media gimmick from start to finish. Against this backdrop, alongside the operational preparation, there is an extensive and coordinated public relations effort by the Foreign Ministry, the IDF, the Israel Police, and the other agencies that are monitoring the flotilla and preparing to address it. This is intended to provide a real-time media response to any expected provocation from the participants. It should be noted that already, Israel's messages regarding the flotilla have garnered millions of views on social networks, whereas the participants' publications are receiving comparatively little and small attention.

By: clavdivs

clavdivs — Sat, 27 Sep 2025 13:24:03 -0800

I'm reading Abbas wants Hamas gone. Is he getting some juice or backing from those European countries that have recognized a Palestinian state? and am I right to think that the United States revoked his Visa. I mean it's not even a veneer it's like a tablecloth.

By: Didymus

Didymus — Sat, 27 Sep 2025 13:52:19 -0800

Fuck this guy to hell Netanyahu on recognition of Palestinian state: "It's a very clear message: murdering Jews pays off" Interview with Canada's Ambassador to the United Nations, Bob Rae

By: adrienneleigh

adrienneleigh — Sat, 27 Sep 2025 13:57:45 -0800

Apparently Netanyahu hijacked cell service in Gaza the other day to force all the Palestinians to listen to the UN speech that the delegates walked out of.

By: cendawanita

cendawanita — Sat, 27 Sep 2025 19:19:00 -0800

Looking forward to see that tech from Theeee Startup Nation be applied elsewhere :) and am I right to think that the United States revoked his Visa Yep.

By: toastyk

toastyk — Sat, 27 Sep 2025 20:41:24 -0800

There doesn't seem to be any actual confirmation of that cell phone takeover thing happening for real. Netanyahu did continue with the villain speeches with influencers about taking over TikTok and spreading the gospel of Zionism though. Larry Ellison is also out there giving villain speeches. - Doctors Without Borders is suspending work in Gaza, citing elevated risk to its healthcare workers. - Israeli attack nearly hits Al-Jazeera film crew in Gaza. - Mother of Hind Rajab and several members of her family have been safely evacuated to a third country. - Dr. Abu Safiya is suffering from serious ailments and loss of weight under Israeli imprisonment. - US state department appoints a dedicated official to handle the case of 16-year-old Palestinian-American Mohammed Ibrahim, who has been held in a military prison for more than 7 months. - Hezbollah says no to disarming. - Trump's got a 21-pt peace plan, that should do it. Other things happening: - Zeteo on the whole "most moral army" thing. - CSU faculty privacy at risk after CSU Los Angeles complied with personal employee contact information after a systemwide antisemitism complaint was initiated. - Workshops 4 Gaza is hosting a workshop on boycotting Teva, an Israeli pharmaceutical company. - Sameer Project still needs donations. - 30 House Democrats have signed onto a letter opposing recognition of Palestine. - Starting to feel like every political corruption story in the US is also about Palestine. Senator Gillibrand circulated an invitation for a Napa retreat for the DSCC during the government shutdown and would include Haley Stevens, the preferred candidate in the 3 way Senate primary between her, state sen Mallory McMorrow, and Abdul El-Sayed.

By: toastyk

toastyk — Sun, 28 Sep 2025 07:12:16 -0800

Northwestern students blocked from enrollment after refusing mandatory training video that "states that Israel was founded "on British land" and refers to the occupied West Bank as "Judea and Samaria", the biblical name controversially used for the region by the Israeli government." Tens of thousands protest in Berlin in solidarity with Palestinians in Gaza. Armed wing of Hamas says it lost contact with 2 of the Israeli captives.

By: cendawanita

cendawanita — Sun, 28 Sep 2025 22:26:19 -0800

Supposedly: 26/9: Donald Trump says he 'will not allow' Israel to annex occupied West Bank 29/9: Trump sees 'very good response' to Gaza deal, hopes to get Israeli support soon 2 hours ago: US, Israel close to agreement on Trump plan to end Gaza war, Axios reporter says

By: toastyk

toastyk — Mon, 29 Sep 2025 08:39:58 -0800

lol the Axios reporter being Barak Ravid. We'll see if the cycle of concern and frustration continues. John Oliver did his most recent main segment on Netanyahu. Politico covers Gen Z (on left and right) turning on Israel - That's particularly true of younger Republicans. In the last three years, the share of Republicans under 50 years old who have negative views of Israel jumped from 35 percent to 50 percent. And fully 71 percent of Democrats under 50 have an unfavorable view of Israel. Diminished support for Israel among Democrats, notably younger ones, began some years ago, particularly after Netanyahu cozied up to Trump in his first term and in the 2020 election, and Netanyahu's successive governments moving further to the right. We're at 51 co-sponsors now for HR 3565. Israel still bombing Lebanon and Gaza.

By: nobody_truncates

nobody_truncates — Mon, 29 Sep 2025 16:42:39 -0800

pij reject this dog-ate-my-homework-ass "plan"

By: cendawanita

cendawanita — Mon, 29 Sep 2025 21:16:07 -0800

They're in good company: Drop Site News: ⚡️Must watch: Netanyahu reveals to Hebrew audiences after the press event where Trump revealed the 20-point plan to end the war on Gaza, that he has no intention of withdrawing Israeli troops from Gaza – "No way, that's not happening." He said: "This is a historic visit. Instead of Hamas isolating us, we turned the tables and isolated Hamas. Now the entire world, including the Arab and Muslim world, is pressuring Hamas to accept the terms we set together with President Trump: to release all our hostages, both living and deceased, while the IDF remains in most of the Strip. Who would have believed this? After all, people constantly say, the IDF should withdraw... No way, that's not happening." Translations by @ireallyhateyou. Video shared by PM of Israel's official Hebrew account on X. The translation work is done by an Israeli btw, what's the over/under of claiming multilingual fluency as antisemitic...

By: sotonohito

sotonohito — Tue, 30 Sep 2025 06:57:02 -0800

In "Trump's" plan, a few points jumped out at me as problematic. Point 9 - which establishes a "technocratic" and "temporary" government under the supervision of Trump and Tony Blair. That seems unlikely to be something people there would accept given the long and awful history of both the US and UK mangling the Middle East and making everything they touch there worse. It also says this "temporary" government will only last until vague, nebulous, and completely unspecified conditions are met. It also also says that the supposedly temporary government will consist of "qualified Palestinians and international experts" Bets on how many Palestinians will be counted as qualified (I'm betting zero)? Point 10 A "Trump economic development plan" full of buzzwords and feelgood weasel words with no substance. Sounds like a land grab. Point 11 WTF is a "special economic zone"? That doesn't sound ominous at all.... Point 15 They couldn't think of an acronym that didn't sound like IDF for their "International Stabilization Force" (ISF)? And international occupation mostly by Egyptian and Jordanian forces? Places that have a hsitory of anti-Palestinian policies and actions? Point 18 I'm not sure what that even might mean, but it sure sounds like Christians lecturing Jews and Muslims to "change their minds"... Point 19 Ah, the carrot! If Palestinians are good little boys and girls and give Trump all the stuff he wants and never do anything bad or mean or refuse to convert away from Islam to Christianity then maybe, possibly, one day, "the conditions may finally be in place for a credible pathway to Palestinian self-determination and statehood" How nice. What kind and generous people these glorious white Christian Americans are to consider that one day, possibly, they might consider a pathway to Palestinian self-determination. /s The inclusion of specific points here is not to say that the others aren't iffy at best, these are just the ones that really jumped out at me as being especially terrible. So.... yeah. Coupled with the fact that Netanyahu basically said "lulz, not happening" to the core parts of Israel withdrawing from Gaza and not claiming any Gaza territory, just the supposed plan alone is filled with enough really obvious traps and hooks I can't see anyone wanting to take it.

By: Kitten as a cat

Kitten as a cat — Tue, 30 Sep 2025 09:55:01 -0800

Could this plan be described as an 'American or Israeli peace offensive'?

By: nobody_truncates

nobody_truncates — Tue, 30 Sep 2025 14:07:35 -0800

just addressing nobody in particular here but as like a background ambient sentiment: fuck tony blair

By: toastyk

toastyk — Tue, 30 Sep 2025 20:58:47 -0800

Some other things going on: 1. Reebok denies claim that it requested removal from jerseys belonging to the Israel Football Association. BDS continues. 2. Israel re-arrests 40 Palestinians who were released under a previous ceasefire agreement with Hamas. 3. Cornell University cancelled 2 classes of a Jewish pro-Palestinian professor after being recorded by an Israeli student, and he complained about discrimination. 4. UCLA has reclaimed hundreds of research grants after being targeted by the Trump administration for anti-semitism. 5. The latest Times/Siena poll finds that a majority of American voters now oppose sending additional economic and military aid to Israel. 6. The ADL deletes Glossary of Extremism under pressure from conservatives over Charlie Kirk entry. 7. Speaking of Charlie Kirk, apparently he wrote a letter to Netanyahu with his suggestions on how Israel could win the information war. 8. Netanyahu is presumably taking that advice, since he's paying influencers $7k per post. 9. A judge appointed by Reagan found that Trump's crackdown on pro-Palestinian campus activists was unlawful. 10. How to fake food amid the famine in Gaza.

By: toastyk

toastyk — Wed, 01 Oct 2025 05:41:43 -0800

A sign of the times...a Reddit AITAH post being locked after only 17 comments where a Jewish parent rescinds punishment of their daughter for accused of "being anti-semitic" by her school after finding out that what happened was befriending a Palestinian kid. Israel detained two 5 and 6 year old Palestinian children under claims of "espionage". At least 51 killed in past 24 hours.

By: toastyk

toastyk — Thu, 02 Oct 2025 07:55:49 -0800

R/subredditdrama covers the aftermath of Wikipedia labeling the Gaza genocide as a fact. HR 3565 cosponsors have risen to 54; I was surprised to see Betty McCollum being one of the latest additions as she has previously advocated for Palestinian rights. Escaped Palestinian women tell the stories of what they brought with them; the journalist Plestia Alaqad discusses her diary of survival that have become a memoir. Israel is dividing us by experience from the rest of the world because even with a question as basic as "How are you?" our answer will always be different. When it comes to our experiences as Palestinians living in Gaza, it's always different than the experiences of the rest of the world. For example, outside of Gaza, a tent is seen as something you use when you go camping, which is a fun activity. But in Gaza, a tent is something you use for survival. Even the sky outside of Gaza — you stargaze, you look at the clouds, you just enjoy looking at the sky. But inside of Gaza, kids grow up afraid of the sky. When you look at the sky, you can't even differentiate. Are there clouds, or is it smoke from a bombing? Is this a quadcopter? FBI cut ties with the ADL, and Kash Patel equated the tracking of extremists to spying on conservatives. Anyway, DHS tweeted about globalists being denied entry to the US yesterday. Israel threatens all staying in Gaza City, saying they would be considered "terrorists and terror supporters" , killing at least 45.

By: nobody_truncates

nobody_truncates — Thu, 02 Oct 2025 09:57:45 -0800

FBI cut ties with the ADL huh, reactionary maniac-on-reactionary maniac bureaucratic aggression. we love to see it.

By: toastyk

toastyk — Thu, 02 Oct 2025 12:03:04 -0800

Kim Kelly reports that US labor unions National Nurses United and UE publicly demanding an immediate halt to military aid to Israel, recognize Palestine, and intervene to put an end to injustices to the Palestinians. NYT discusses Democrats shift away from AIPAC.

By: jedicus

jedicus — Fri, 03 Oct 2025 13:48:55 -0800

BBC: Hamas says it agrees to release Israeli hostages but seeks changes to US Gaza peace plan

Hamas has agreed to release all the remaining Israeli hostages but has said it wants further negotiations on a number of key points outlined in the US peace plan. In a statement the movement said it agreed "to release all Israeli prisoners, both living and dead, according to the exchange formula contained in President Trump's proposal" - if field conditions for the exchanges were met. But it appears to suggest it is seeking further negotiation on other issues regarding the future of the Gaza Strip and the rights of the Palestinian people saying that they are still being discussed.

By: nobody_truncates

nobody_truncates — Sat, 04 Oct 2025 05:20:19 -0800

Middle East Eye interviews Normal Finkelstein; the early part of the video discusses the "Trump plan" and the likely outcome (the rest of it was recorded earlier, is very good background, but is not recent news).

By: toastyk

toastyk — Sat, 04 Oct 2025 06:15:51 -0800

Not going to link to all of it but Trump reposted Hamas' statement about the ceasefire deal verbatim on his social media, said Israel should stop bombing Gaza, and then deleted the tweet. Israel has not stopped the bombing. There's at least 20 people dead now. Meanwhile: - An Israeli tech op-ed admits that the Israeli tech industry and academic field is becoming increasingly isolated. - Oracle referred employees who were not on-board with their pro-Israel stance to mental health services. - USC sold unclaimed dead bodies to US military to train IDF medical personnel. - New IMEU polling out: The survey of over 1,200 likely Democratic primary voters found these voters strongly support imposing sanctions on the Israeli government (65%), believe Israel is committing genocide in Gaza (72%), and oppose renewing the memorandum of understanding agreement to provide annual weapons funding to Israel (75%). - Move to hold UEFA vote on Israel ban delayed while Trump seeks ceasefire deal. - Alameda County (CA, USA) half-adopts "ethical investment" policy amid concerns around Gaza war. - Reuters posted a picture on X with the following text: A Palestinian person sits among debris at a United Nations school where displaced people were taking shelter after it was hit in overnight Israeli strikes in Gaza City. The actual linked picture (scroll down) has the following caption: A Palestinian girl sits amid debris at a United Nations school where displaced people were taking shelter, after it was hit in overnight Israeli strikes, amid an Israeli military operation, at Zeitoun neighbourhood in Gaza City, October 1. 10 former Biden officials who resigned over Gaza demand accountability for those state officials who stayed and enabled the genocide: "They had all the information available to them and all the recommendations, and they chose this path that was just taking the Israeli narrative over anything else, continuing to provide weapons, accepting reports that Israel was not blocking humanitarian aid, which was not true," Casey said. "Just pushing things forward against all recommendations and advice. They weren't just silent and complicit, they actively made it happen."

By: toastyk

toastyk — Sat, 04 Oct 2025 13:18:44 -0800

lol. Sure thing Barak Ravid: Trump told me: "Bibi took it very far (in Gaza) and Israel lost a lot of support in the world. Now I am gonna get all that support back״