Comments on: Save Thousands Of Years And Preserve Graffiti Now:

Save Thousands Of Years And Preserve Graffiti Now:

MiguelCardoso — Sat, 04 May 2002 08:52:33 -0800

Save Thousands Of Years And Preserve Graffiti Now: Bijan Omrani playfully argues for the preservation of contemporary graffiti in Oxford's august Bodleian Library. Perhaps they're the modern equivalent of the Lascaux cave paintings. "Kilroy was here" notwithstanding, witty graffiti can be found on walls all around the world. Shouldn't some sort of repository be created to safeguard this undeniably pure - and unfairly overlooked - form of popular expression? I'm sorry to say I couldn't find one single good written graffiti site on the Web. Does anyone know of one - or at least have a memorable graffito to share with the rest of us?

By: jonmc

jonmc — Sat, 04 May 2002 09:04:59 -0800

Here's site with some great vintage stuff. and the Graffiti Writers section of B-boys.com is pretty comprehensive as well. Here in the northeast, many of us are of two minds on graffiti. Bad graffitti is annoying vandalism, good graffiti is public art or in the case of bathroom wall type stuff, public humor writing.

By: riffola

riffola — Sat, 04 May 2002 09:06:54 -0800

A building compound wall near the building I used to live in had "Lennon is god" on it, and it's been there fore over twenty years, and that's the one I always remember. Art Crimes has a bunch of links to graffiti sites, and a few images here and there. As for the topic, I don't think all graffiti should be preserved, because most of the times it's just territorial markings by various gangs. Re-painting graffitied walls costs a lot of money, and ultimately it's paid for by the tenants/residents.

By: mikhail

mikhail — Sat, 04 May 2002 09:53:35 -0800

Art Crimes is a good place to start. They also have a big list of graffiti sites in their links section. And Scribble Magazine had some interesting stuff, although they seem to be in the middle of changing things, so you can't go anywhere but the front page at the moment. As for preservation of graffiti, I think most of the artists that do it understand the transience of the form. They know their finest piece of work will probably be tagged the minute they walk away, covered over, or stripped off. That's just the nature of graffiti. With specific regards to the toilet graffiti in the library mentioned in the article, if someone wants to document it, go ahead, but preserved? Nah.

By: salmacis

salmacis — Sat, 04 May 2002 09:56:10 -0800

I feel so strongly about toilet graffiti, I signed a partition...

By: MUD

MUD — Sat, 04 May 2002 09:56:48 -0800

I've said it before and I'll say it again - that Banksy kid is good. While I do love the stuff he does on the streets, this canvas work is undoubtedly my favourite because it's just so purty and still says something.

By: vacapinta

vacapinta — Sat, 04 May 2002 09:58:06 -0800

For those of you familiar with San Francisco, I've had the opportunity to go deep into the bowels of the San Francisco Honda building at the corner of Market & Van Ness. If you know your history, you know that this was the old Fillmore West where Joplin, the Grateful Dead, Hendrix, Franklin and Miles Davis gave legendary performances. Even though the building was converted into a car dealership, there are still remnants of the old building including the ticket windows and parts of the old bathrooms and stairwells. There's also, surprisingly, still a lot of old graffiti there from concert-goers. Much of it is junk graffiti, random scrawlings, profanity etc. but one could argue that it has some historical value, no?

By: selton

selton — Sat, 04 May 2002 09:58:19 -0800

I saw Free George Davies EVERYWHERE when I grew up. From what I remember he was freed too... then re-offended and was stuck back inside. The other one I remember from my young days was prominent on the side of a bridge white girls are deeper at that age I had no idea what it meant.

By: the cuban

the cuban — Sat, 04 May 2002 09:58:21 -0800

weegie graffiti.

By: calico

calico — Sat, 04 May 2002 10:34:03 -0800

My favourite - at college there was a free-standing ashtray in the sciences department. Above the ashtray was a sign that read: Despite the presence of the ashtray, smoking is not permitted Underneath which was neat handwriting: Ah, but who are we to believe, the sign or the ashtray? And then in slightly messier handwriting: Bloody philosophy students

By: verso

verso — Sat, 04 May 2002 11:21:03 -0800

here's two I enjoy: -As you cross the Sellwood bridge here in Portland, there's a sign that says "Men below please don't throw" which I always thought was funny in itself. Then someone added a WO to the beginning of the sign. Heh. -We have these billboards of Daisy Fuentes that say "Daisy takes folic acid. Do you?" and an alarmingly large picture of her accompanies this public service announcement. Well, on one of these, someone covered up folic. They did a pretty good job, too. So now when I see the others, I giggle because all I can think of is "Daisy takes acid. Do you?"

By: pinto

pinto — Sat, 04 May 2002 11:47:38 -0800

Graffiti in florence. (this is a self-link, but highly relevant)

By: readymade

readymade — Sat, 04 May 2002 12:30:19 -0800

On hand dryers in the bathroom: 1. Press button 2. Rub hands under warm air [Hand written] 3. Wipe hands on pants Sooo true. I've never used one once where I haven't wiped my hands on my clothes as I walked out.

By: y2karl

y2karl — Sat, 04 May 2002 14:32:36 -0800

Since the city got big on scrubbing tags a few years back, Seattle has almost no outdoor historical graffiti. There used to be one along a retaining wall just past the the underpass to the University Bridge where Campus Parkway curves up and connects thereto-- TERRI AND YOUSEFF BOOGIE AND RAISE HELL! That was a favorite. There's a 'Free Huey' in an alley on Capitol Hill somewhere. There used to be one in the Blue Moon tavern I liked, too-- Beat Me, Whip Me Call Me Irresponsible... Oh, and one on a column under the 520 floating bridge you could see from a canoe: SAM IS COMING. Also, the once ubiquitous' Tina Chopp Is God'--that was everywhere.

By: jedrek

jedrek — Sat, 04 May 2002 14:40:28 -0800

I actually run (or rather used to, I don't update them anymore) two graffiti sites: [hUH?] and Warsaw Represent. But it's probably not the graffiti most people want to preserve. Yeah, it's self linking. Yeah, I suck.

By: dhartung

dhartung — Sat, 04 May 2002 14:55:40 -0800

Hagia Sophia in Istanbul has Viking graffiti from ca. 1000 AD. It says Halvdan was here. readymade: The classic World Dryer instructions are frequently altered in a standard way. (The one I usually see for #3 is stop auto_at__ally.) A famous graffiti'd natural location in the US is Pompey's Pillar, which includes the signature of explorer William Clark. There was a flap about Soviet army graffiti left on the Reichstag There even seems to be a project to collect it, in Europe anyway.

By: Spoon

Spoon — Sat, 04 May 2002 15:04:57 -0800

Royal Leamington Spa has some of the best grafitti in the known world including: Thank you Belgium Have you seen my cat? Bernard Kirton smokes dope James Michaels knits ladies sweaters I know Willy Thorne Out Demons Out and the immortal: Avoid Cider

By: clavdivs

clavdivs — Sat, 04 May 2002 15:15:44 -0800

'Poetry?!' a familiar sight around Ann Arbor in the early 90's. Thank you Belgium Have you seen my cat? Bernard Kirton smokes dope James Michaels knits ladies sweaters I know Willy Thorne Out Demons Out seems like Beys stuff on 'Poetic Terrorism"

By: WolfDaddy

WolfDaddy — Sat, 04 May 2002 15:18:55 -0800

Funniest: "My mother made me a homosexual!" "Can she make me one too, but in a nice winter color?" Most Strangely Touching: "TEEN BRIDE I'M SORRY!"

By: i_am_joe's_spleen

i_am_joe's_spleen — Sat, 04 May 2002 15:37:52 -0800

"Kneejerk opposition is as bad as mindless acceptance" (Cuba St, Wellington).

By: y2karl

y2karl — Sat, 04 May 2002 20:37:48 -0800

seems like clavidvs' stuff on 'Post-etic Terrorism"

By: y2karl

y2karl — Sat, 04 May 2002 20:38:47 -0800

oops, clavdivs' stuff

By: ceiriog

ceiriog — Sun, 05 May 2002 05:25:07 -0800

On Bute St, Cardiff, now scrubbed: Independant Tropical Wales - given the relative advances of devolution and global warming, who knows which'll arrive first. Another favourite is the slogan Cofia Dryweryn (remember Tryweryn, the Welsh valley drowned to provide water for Liverpool). The best known instance of this, on the A487 near Aberystwyth, is retouched from time to time, and has been the subject of paintings by Aneurin Jones and Ivor Davies.

By: Spoon

Spoon — Sun, 05 May 2002 15:48:28 -0800

My other favourites have to include any really badly spelt or grammatically incorrect graffitit: Tony Blair; Reggy Kray has served 30 years? and the truly great: Fuk Ov Bastids.

By: y2karl

y2karl — Sun, 05 May 2002 18:55:02 -0800

Oh, my other favorite Seattle graffiti is in the Eastlake Zoo Tavern's --there's an unvisited web site--mens room where underneath a I Fucked Your Mother! over the urinal, someone wrote Dad, you're drunk--go home...

By: kliuless

kliuless — Sun, 05 May 2002 19:06:25 -0800

portland has/had the lovejoy ramp murals.