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Comments on MetaFilter post Dólar BlueThu, 23 Apr 2015 10:18:32 -0800Thu, 23 Apr 2015 10:18:32 -0800en-ushttp://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss60Dólar Blue
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<a href="http://www.argentinaindependent.com/currentaffairs/analysis/inside-argentinas-blue-dollar-market/">Inside Argentina's Blue Dollar Market.</a> <br /><br />For years, Argentines have been <a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/bw/articles/2013-05-15/argentines-hold-more-than-50-billion-in-u-dot-s-dot-currency-dot-heres-how-we-know#r=rss">stockpiling US dollars</a> as a more secure currency (and far safer investment) than their own volatile peso. <i><blockquote>"So it seems safe to say that today Argentines hold probably well more than $50 billion [USD], and well more than one in every 15 dollars. (This is why the government of <a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-05-10/deadbeat-special-unveiled-in-jail-free-4-bond-argentina-credit.html">Cristina Kirchner is so furiously digging at the country's undeclared wealth</a>. Not to bring home what Argentines hold abroad, but to uncover some of those dollars Argentines have—literally—at home.)"</blockquote></i></blockquote>
Argentina has stringent monitoring and controls regarding the exchange of pesos for foreign currencies, including the US dollar. Since they limit how many dollars anyone within the country may obtain, an informal black market: the <em>dólar blue</em> or "Blue Dollar," has developed, where people can exchange pesos for dollars at an unofficial, better rate.
In the last year, tourists to Argentina <a href="http://matadornetwork.com/abroad/use-possibly-understand-argentinas-black-market-money-exchange/">have</a> been <a href="http://www.theguardian.com/travel/2014/jan/24/argentina-peso-devaluation-blue-dollar-tourism">encouraged</a> to <a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-10-16/argentina-black-market-proving-irresistible-to-tourists">bring</a> hard cash with them to take advantage of the black market. Even though the trade is illegal in Argentina, exchange rates are published in <a href="http://www.lanacion.com.ar/dolar-hoy-t1369">newspapers</a> and on websites like <a href="http://dolarblue.net/">dolarblue.com</a>.post:www.metafilter.com,2015:site.149081Thu, 23 Apr 2015 10:14:00 -0800zarqargentinaargentinecurrencymoneyeconomyeconomicsazulbluedollarpesoillegalblackmarketexchangeratefinancetourismBy: benito.strauss
http://www.metafilter.com/149081/Dlar-Blue#6019741
I could swear we (i.e. my Dad) did something similar with US dollars in Israel when we visited in the 1970s. I was pretty young though, so I could be mis-remembering.comment:www.metafilter.com,2015:site.149081-6019741Thu, 23 Apr 2015 10:18:32 -0800benito.straussBy: ssg
http://www.metafilter.com/149081/Dlar-Blue#6019757
Such a weird tone in the article. The question of how the rate is determined is clearly answered by market forces, but the author spends much of the article making this sound like some strange, shadowy mystery.
Of course, black markets for currency exchange have been around for ages and pop up any time there are currency controls.comment:www.metafilter.com,2015:site.149081-6019757Thu, 23 Apr 2015 10:33:41 -0800ssgBy: ocschwar
http://www.metafilter.com/149081/Dlar-Blue#6019791
Like Israel in the early 80's.comment:www.metafilter.com,2015:site.149081-6019791Thu, 23 Apr 2015 10:52:04 -0800ocschwarBy: Blackanvil
http://www.metafilter.com/149081/Dlar-Blue#6019802
Like Russia during the cold war, too. The official exchange rate sucked, could only be used to get a strange type of tourist currency that could only be used in certain stores and restaurants, and everyone who was actually looking to buy stuff would find many entrepreneurs in alleyways and cabs who had a much better exchange rate for real rubles.comment:www.metafilter.com,2015:site.149081-6019802Thu, 23 Apr 2015 10:56:39 -0800BlackanvilBy: Bee'sWing
http://www.metafilter.com/149081/Dlar-Blue#6019922
This is why 80% of US dollars in circulation <a href="http://www.marketplace.org/topics/business/more-100-bills-circulation-ever">are $100 bills.</a> The resulting <a href="http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seigniorage">seigniorage</a> is quite profitable for the US treasury.comment:www.metafilter.com,2015:site.149081-6019922Thu, 23 Apr 2015 11:44:28 -0800Bee'sWingBy: fatbird
http://www.metafilter.com/149081/Dlar-Blue#6019984
<em> The question of how the rate is determined is clearly answered by market forces</em>
Howso? "Market forces" is an opaque term here--you have no idea if some entity is co-ordinating the rate and responses to it, which would likely be a criminal organization. This could be, in part, a massive money laundering operation. It seems implausible that all these money exchangers are independent entities.comment:www.metafilter.com,2015:site.149081-6019984Thu, 23 Apr 2015 12:08:57 -0800fatbirdBy: BrotherCaine
http://www.metafilter.com/149081/Dlar-Blue#6020059
I knew a guy who claimed he got into black market currency exchange while a US State Department employee in the 1980s. He said he was standing around in an ill-lit parking garage with a suitcase full of thousands of dollars in cash and realized he was going to get robbed if he kept at it.comment:www.metafilter.com,2015:site.149081-6020059Thu, 23 Apr 2015 13:03:20 -0800BrotherCaine
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