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Comments on MetaFilter post Miss Gender — A Video Podcast About My Transition from One Gender to AnotherWed, 14 Sep 2011 07:07:09 -0800Wed, 14 Sep 2011 07:07:09 -0800en-ushttp://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss60Miss Gender — A Video Podcast About My Transition from One Gender to Another
http://www.metafilter.com/107420/Miss-Gender-A-Video-Podcast-About-My-Transition-from-One-Gender-to-Another
<a href="http://missgender.com">Miss Gender — A Video Podcast About my Transition From One Gender to Another</a> [via <a href='http://projects.metafilter.com/3274/Miss-Gender-A-Video-Podcast-About-my-Transition-From-One-Gender-to-Another'>mefi projects</a>] <br /><br />"Miss Gender is a video podcast created by Jay Frosting and me about about my transition from male to female. I've been contemplating my gender identity since I was 13 or 14 and, now in my mid-30s, I've started to get my head around the reality that I'm transgender.
On the show we talk about how I came to realize I'm transgender, coming out to my parents and other family members, mulling over how to handle things at work, and simply trying to get the hang of being a girl."
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Honest and informative, Miss Gender gets into the emotions and dynamics behind transitioning as well as anything I've ever seen before. There's two 40-plus minute episodes posted so far, viewable via Vimeo streaming video or by subscription on the site or on iTunes. Audio-only versions are also available.post:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.107420Wed, 14 Sep 2011 06:14:10 -0800itemmefiprojectsmissgendergendertranstransitiontransgenderedtransgendertranssexuallgbtglbtsexualitypodcastmtfBy: kinnakeet
http://www.metafilter.com/107420/Miss-Gender-A-Video-Podcast-About-My-Transition-from-One-Gender-to-Another#3920557
There is something deeply inspiring to me when individuals come to grips with themselves and make a major change in order to live--or at least try to live--a better life. It's like giving birth to yourself only perhaps more painful.
I'm looking forward to listening to this on an upcoming road trip when I'll need something for my mind to chew on. Thanks for posting.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.107420-3920557Wed, 14 Sep 2011 07:07:09 -0800kinnakeetBy: inturnaround
http://www.metafilter.com/107420/Miss-Gender-A-Video-Podcast-About-My-Transition-from-One-Gender-to-Another#3920572
I caught this and commented on it on Projects yesterday and am happy to see it here. It's a wonderful show that on a very simple level is about a very supportive friendship. Ashley's super honest and open and Jay asks a lot of great questions so it makes for a very moving, human experience.
Can't recommend it enough.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.107420-3920572Wed, 14 Sep 2011 07:18:22 -0800inturnaroundBy: Theta States
http://www.metafilter.com/107420/Miss-Gender-A-Video-Podcast-About-My-Transition-from-One-Gender-to-Another#3920576
I feel like a schmuck because I found it too long/slow...comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.107420-3920576Wed, 14 Sep 2011 07:20:53 -0800Theta StatesBy: janepanic
http://www.metafilter.com/107420/Miss-Gender-A-Video-Podcast-About-My-Transition-from-One-Gender-to-Another#3920591
<i>I feel like a schmuck because I found it too long/slow</i>
I had this, too. I switched to the audio version. The second interview (which I'm listening to now) is better and they both seem more relaxed.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.107420-3920591Wed, 14 Sep 2011 07:27:13 -0800janepanicBy: ArmyOfKittens
http://www.metafilter.com/107420/Miss-Gender-A-Video-Podcast-About-My-Transition-from-One-Gender-to-Another#3920651
I haven't watched this yet -- I'm at work and on my phone -- but I just want to say how God. Damn. Proud. I am that people are transitioning so publicly, talking about it candidly, and just generally putting themselves out there as if we already lived in the better world we all wish was here already.
Fuck yes. Modern trans people are great.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.107420-3920651Wed, 14 Sep 2011 08:02:10 -0800ArmyOfKittensBy: This, of course, alludes to you
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"modern" ones? what do you meancomment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.107420-3920725Wed, 14 Sep 2011 08:58:00 -0800This, of course, alludes to youBy: Seymour Zamboni
http://www.metafilter.com/107420/Miss-Gender-A-Video-Podcast-About-My-Transition-from-One-Gender-to-Another#3920748
'TransAmerica" was a great movie.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.107420-3920748Wed, 14 Sep 2011 09:14:23 -0800Seymour ZamboniBy: polywomp
http://www.metafilter.com/107420/Miss-Gender-A-Video-Podcast-About-My-Transition-from-One-Gender-to-Another#3920772
<em> people are transitioning so publicly, talking about it candidly, and just generally putting themselves out there as if we already lived in the better world we all wish was here already.</em>
That's the path it will take to actually get there.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.107420-3920772Wed, 14 Sep 2011 09:24:35 -0800polywompBy: justsomebodythatyouusedtoknow
http://www.metafilter.com/107420/Miss-Gender-A-Video-Podcast-About-My-Transition-from-One-Gender-to-Another#3920785
This is so much better than usenet. Tone and expression matter. Text-only, I don't think I would have caught that the first video story of self discovery is coming from what seems like an almost quizzical place where Ashley has the distance to look at her past self with a bit of perplexity. It's not so much about feeling the hurt of the past as feeling sympathy for her past self, or at least that's how I saw it. It's an attitude toward the self here that I'd like to better absorb. Thankfully there's more video yet to see. It's hard to express what I'm feeling about this text-only.
Ashley, thanks.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.107420-3920785Wed, 14 Sep 2011 09:34:05 -0800justsomebodythatyouusedtoknowBy: ArmyOfKittens
http://www.metafilter.com/107420/Miss-Gender-A-Video-Podcast-About-My-Transition-from-One-Gender-to-Another#3920786
<a href="http://www.metafilter.com/107420/Miss-Gender-A-Video-Podcast-About-My-Transition-from-One-Gender-to-Another#3920725">This, of course, alludes to you</a>: "<i>"modern" ones? what do you mean</i>"
I mean when I transitioned, ten years ago, this sort of reach-everyone technology simply wasn't there. I could have written a book, which people would have had to buy, or kept a website (which I did, and a livejournal, but despite being in numerous blogrolls and the like, people only came to me when they were seeking out trans people). We've broken through into the popular consciousness in the last decade in a way we never have before, thanks in part to acts like this.
It gives me a happy.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.107420-3920786Wed, 14 Sep 2011 09:34:46 -0800ArmyOfKittensBy: ArmyOfKittens
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<a href="http://www.metafilter.com/107420/Miss-Gender-A-Video-Podcast-About-My-Transition-from-One-Gender-to-Another#3920748">Seymour Zamboni</a>: "<i>'TransAmerica" was a great movie.</i>"
I've never seen it, but having heard that the cis woman playing the lead got a cybernetic jawline in order to properly portray a trans woman I decided to skip it :)comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.107420-3920788Wed, 14 Sep 2011 09:36:03 -0800ArmyOfKittensBy: item
http://www.metafilter.com/107420/Miss-Gender-A-Video-Podcast-About-My-Transition-from-One-Gender-to-Another#3920799
<em> the cis woman playing the lead got a cybernetic jawline in order to properly portray a trans woman</em>
Could you please explain what this means? I confess, I don't understand.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.107420-3920799Wed, 14 Sep 2011 09:45:13 -0800itemBy: mkb
http://www.metafilter.com/107420/Miss-Gender-A-Video-Podcast-About-My-Transition-from-One-Gender-to-Another#3920849
"cisgendered" is the opposite of "transgendered". Felicity Huffman is cisgendered and they put Maynard James Keenan's face on her, basically.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.107420-3920849Wed, 14 Sep 2011 10:17:42 -0800mkbBy: ArmyOfKittens
http://www.metafilter.com/107420/Miss-Gender-A-Video-Podcast-About-My-Transition-from-One-Gender-to-Another#3920860
<a href="http://www.metafilter.com/107420/Miss-Gender-A-Video-Podcast-About-My-Transition-from-One-Gender-to-Another#3920799">item</a>: "<i>Could you please explain what this means? I confess, I don't understand.</i>"
<a href="http://www.barbelith.com/topic/24334#post570570">This comment has it</a>:<blockquote>I also have a slight issue with the way that Huffman had to be so visually coded as transsexual. (This is one thing I noticed from the trailers.) If she had looked just like herself, without the prosthetic jaw, the deliberately 'clumsy' make-up and the henna'd hair that looked a lot like a wig (all, for me, screaming 'fake'), I think the film would have been more politically transgressive and more threatening to its mainstream audience. But of course, you can't have Felicity Huffman looking like a normal actor playing a transperson. You have to make their transness visible -- which comes across, often, as ugly clumsiness.</blockquote>I have, unlike many trans people I know, no problem at all with cis people telling trans stories, but only if they tell them <i>well</i>. Caricatures are caricatures. Her voice bothers me, too!comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.107420-3920860Wed, 14 Sep 2011 10:20:42 -0800ArmyOfKittensBy: 26.2
http://www.metafilter.com/107420/Miss-Gender-A-Video-Podcast-About-My-Transition-from-One-Gender-to-Another#3921271
Felicity's crazy jaw is interesting to me.
Do many people assume that all transgendered people look sort of halfway between male and female. Are people wandering around thinking that transgendered people look like the cross-dressed cheerleaders at the powder puff football game?
I know Ashley (and Jay). Ashley's makeup is more skillfully applied than mine is.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.107420-3921271Wed, 14 Sep 2011 13:15:13 -080026.2By: ArmyOfKittens
http://www.metafilter.com/107420/Miss-Gender-A-Video-Podcast-About-My-Transition-from-One-Gender-to-Another#3921393
There seem to be two One True Narratives for trans women knocking about the mainstream media: one is the super-young kid who was done with transition in her teens and is sleeping her way through a series of unsuspecting blokes, showing off her nasty surprise to each; the other is the "tragic" late transitioner who never really passes, has a deep voice, and for whom everything is a struggle.
Stories like Ash's -- and mine -- don't really get told unless we tell them.
<small>I will not dominate this thread. I will not dominate this thread. I will not dom-- I WANNA BE A WITCH</small>comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.107420-3921393Wed, 14 Sep 2011 14:06:01 -0800ArmyOfKittensBy: polywomp
http://www.metafilter.com/107420/Miss-Gender-A-Video-Podcast-About-My-Transition-from-One-Gender-to-Another#3921399
<em>Do many people assume that all transgendered people look sort of halfway between male and female. Are people wandering around thinking that transgendered people look like the cross-dressed cheerleaders at the powder puff football game?</em>
I think that is the assumption of many people, because the trans people they notice are the ones that stick out the most. They are for the most part completely unaware of the trans people they pass by on the street or the grocery store that just blend in.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.107420-3921399Wed, 14 Sep 2011 14:07:41 -0800polywompBy: pishposh
http://www.metafilter.com/107420/Miss-Gender-A-Video-Podcast-About-My-Transition-from-One-Gender-to-Another#3921526
I noticed the slow pace but I think that was mostly Ashley and Jay carefully considering their words. This is heavy stuff. It was mainly heartwarming and inspiring to (cis) me but I can only imagine what it would mean to a teenager in the same place that Ashley was 20 years ago.
<em>Ashley's makeup is more skillfully applied than mine is.</em>
Those make-up tips at the end were awesome! Very cute and I learned something - so many primers. I'll stay tuned no matter what but maybe I'll finally figure out eyeshadow, too.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.107420-3921526Wed, 14 Sep 2011 15:23:54 -0800pishposhBy: Wossname
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I'm really glad Ashley and Jay have chosen to do this. Similar to ArmyofKittens, books and text message boards were my only resources for transgender "voices" when I was coming out to my parents. Coming out to my friends when I finally transitioned (far later than I would have wished, but let's not dwell on regrets) was much easier because I had vlogs like these to show them.
Aside from humanizing trans people, these videos also allow cis-folks to sate some voyeuristic curiosity (it's a normal urge, I don't blame people for having it... just in how some choose to express it) without being accidentally offensive.
For an FTM's perspective, I enjoy referring people to <a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/JJFanshawe">Jonathan's</a> channel. <a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/JJFanshawe#p/u/12/h4oOeclPUMI">This video in particular</a> is among my favorites because it describes many incidents in my childhood so well.*
<small>* Sadly, sans Alan Rickman.</small>comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.107420-3921574Wed, 14 Sep 2011 16:19:31 -0800WossnameBy: ArmyOfKittens
http://www.metafilter.com/107420/Miss-Gender-A-Video-Podcast-About-My-Transition-from-One-Gender-to-Another#3922048
<small><a href="http://www.metafilter.com/107420/Miss-Gender-A-Video-Podcast-About-My-Transition-from-One-Gender-to-Another#3921574">Wossname</a>: "<i><a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/JJFanshawe">Jonathan's</a> channel.</i>"
oh my god I fucking love that guy.</small>comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.107420-3922048Wed, 14 Sep 2011 22:43:13 -0800ArmyOfKittensBy: PhoBWanKenobi
http://www.metafilter.com/107420/Miss-Gender-A-Video-Podcast-About-My-Transition-from-One-Gender-to-Another#3925574
I came in to recommend my favorite trans youtuber, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/freshlycharles#grid/user/4278077BBA1E9655">freshlycharles</a>. His vlogs are incredibly thoughtful and powerful and while I only have really ever lurked there for the two years or so that I've followed, I feel lucky to have just been able to share in his transition.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.107420-3925574Fri, 16 Sep 2011 17:08:30 -0800PhoBWanKenobiBy: ArmyOfKittens
http://www.metafilter.com/107420/Miss-Gender-A-Video-Podcast-About-My-Transition-from-One-Gender-to-Another#3926861
The most recent big trans story in the UK is the <a href="http://news.google.co.uk/news/more?hl=en&safe=off&q=transsexual+school&gs_upl=7114l7826l1l8114l6l5l0l0l0l0l204l676l1.3.1l5l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&biw=1326&bih=911&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ncl=df_b14F8B-QYsEMH3uKXCw70UpoVM&ei=e6l1Tua5FNGb1AXciLyXCA&sa=X&oi=news_result&ct=more-results&resnum=8&ved=0CGQQqgIwBw">transsexual girl</a> who returned to school recently <i>as</i> a girl. The first few days of coverage in most daily rags were pretty appalling -- I believe it debuted in the Mail and the Metro (the Mail's free sibling, widely distributed on the Tube) as something like "Sex Swap Boy Returns to School Dressed as Girl" -- but once mother and child consented to be interviewed the tabs have been falling over themselves to be <a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2038392/Why-I-let-son-live-girl-Mother-boy-returned-school-skirt.html">supportive</a>. Even the comments on the Daily Mail article are of the "let her be happy and get on with her life, sheesh" persuasion.
It helps that said mother and child are both articulate and photogenic, but the episode as a whole still represents an enormous leap for trans people in Britain. It's difficult for all but the most trenchant of wankstains to look into the face of a happy, well-adjusted girl and scream for her to cut her hair and put her boys' uniform back on, after all.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.107420-3926861Sun, 18 Sep 2011 01:25:56 -0800ArmyOfKittensBy: ArmyOfKittens
http://www.metafilter.com/107420/Miss-Gender-A-Video-Podcast-About-My-Transition-from-One-Gender-to-Another#3926863
<small>I was going to FPP it but I'm ill this weekend and too tired to form complete sentences that don't read like they were painstakingly assembled by carefully-trained animals from parts of other, better-written sentences. Besides, I'm a little too MY SINGLE ISSUE LET ME SHOW YOU IT.</small>comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.107420-3926863Sun, 18 Sep 2011 01:29:15 -0800ArmyOfKittensBy: Theta States
http://www.metafilter.com/107420/Miss-Gender-A-Video-Podcast-About-My-Transition-from-One-Gender-to-Another#3927452
<i>articulate and <b>photogenic</b></i>
Ding ding ding!comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.107420-3927452Sun, 18 Sep 2011 15:26:08 -0800Theta StatesBy: ArmyOfKittens
http://www.metafilter.com/107420/Miss-Gender-A-Video-Podcast-About-My-Transition-from-One-Gender-to-Another#3927873
Yeah, I'd love for it not to be important, but for winning over the Daily Mail it really is.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.107420-3927873Mon, 19 Sep 2011 02:45:58 -0800ArmyOfKittens
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