Comments on: 25 Greatest Unscripted Scenes in Films http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films/ Comments on MetaFilter post 25 Greatest Unscripted Scenes in Films Tue, 16 Aug 2011 05:23:36 -0800 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 05:23:36 -0800 en-us http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss 60 25 Greatest Unscripted Scenes in Films http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cTFQBHBeleE">25 Greatest Unscripted Scenes in Films</a> post:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 05:04:19 -0800 Rykey film cinema movies unscripted acting improv improvisation actor actress By: Brandon Blatcher http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3871817 See, SEE?! A reach around is common courtesy! comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3871817 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 05:23:36 -0800 Brandon Blatcher By: Halloween Jack http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3871826 Not a great list: - The compiler tells you to leave the captions on for explanations, but most of the captions don't give you any more information than "This scene/line is improvised." - Also, the compiler doesn't seem to know the difference between "unscripted" and "improvised"; I doubt that R. Lee Ermey's lines were improvised on the spot. (Wasn't the "steers and queers" thing used in <em>An Officer and a Gentleman</em>?) - And, really, they could have used a <em>lot</em> more Bill Murray; big chunks of <em>Stripes</em> and <em>Ghostbusters</em> were improvised. That having been said, some of this was news to me. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3871826 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 05:33:13 -0800 Halloween Jack By: rmd1023 http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3871830 I think the "steers and queers" thing was pretty standard DI ranting. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3871830 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 05:35:09 -0800 rmd1023 By: pmurray63 http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3871831 Good to see that he didn't include Indiana Jones shooting the scimitar-wielding guy in <em>Raiders</em>, since <a href="http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2011/05/23/raiders-of-the-lost-ark-30-years-later-a-stuntmans-on-the-set-diary/">it didn't happen for the reason most people think</a>. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3871831 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 05:35:34 -0800 pmurray63 By: pyramid termite http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3871846 <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yd91A3Qcfkw">"wait - where are you going? - i was going to make expresso"</a> comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3871846 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 05:45:21 -0800 pyramid termite By: Pendragon http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3871850 Unscripted does not mean improvised, it just means it wasn't in the script. Actors and directors often come up with good ideas on set. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3871850 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 05:49:11 -0800 Pendragon By: Fizz http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3871858 <em>Actors and directors often come up with good ideas on set.</em> Someone please tell Michael Bay this. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3871858 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 05:59:14 -0800 Fizz By: three blind mice http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3871880 <i>I doubt that R. Lee Ermey's lines were improvised on the spot. </i> I don't. He's a retired U.S. Marine Corps Drill Instructor. Those guys talk like that in their sleep. No scriptwriter could do it better. The script probably just said "Do some DI stuff." comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3871880 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 06:09:15 -0800 three blind mice By: Pastabagel http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3871896 While not strictly improvised, the iconic "Funny like a clown?" scene in <i>Goodfellas</i> was written and directed by Joe Pesci at Scorsese's request. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3871896 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 06:19:42 -0800 Pastabagel By: ricochet biscuit http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3871897 <em>I doubt that R. Lee Ermey's lines were improvised on the spot. I don't. He's a retired U.S. Marine Corps Drill Instructor. Those guys talk like that in their sleep. No scriptwriter could do it better. The script probably just said "Do some DI stuff."</em> Famously, Ermey was hired as a replacement for the actor who was originally cast as Hartmann (Ermey was initially hired as a technical advisor). During rehearsals, Kubrick was impressed that Ermey could improvise a profanity-ridden tirade for twenty minutes without repeating himself. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3871897 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 06:20:14 -0800 ricochet biscuit By: I am the Walrus http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3871925 <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3871831">pmurray63</a>: "<i>Good to see that he didn't include Indiana Jones shooting the scimitar-wielding guy in <em>Raiders</em>, since <a href="http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2011/05/23/raiders-of-the-lost-ark-30-years-later-a-stuntmans-on-the-set-diary/">it didn't happen for the reason most people think</a></i>" this was a great article, thanks comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3871925 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 06:30:53 -0800 I am the Walrus By: dirtdirt http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3871951 <em>since it didn't happen for the reason most people think</em> I think, like most good legends, there can be some doubt as to what really happened, but why are you so quick to believe this guy telling a new version of the story, and not <a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20080604184141/http://www.indy-net.co.uk/articles.php?article_id=4">Ford</a> himself? Simply because it casts Spielberg in a less-flattering light? comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3871951 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 06:48:40 -0800 dirtdirt By: shakespeherian http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3871990 <em>Famously, Ermey was hired as a replacement for the actor who was originally cast as Hartmann (Ermey was initially hired as a technical advisor). During rehearsals, Kubrick was impressed that Ermey could improvise a profanity-ridden tirade for twenty minutes without repeating himself.</em> Also, when Ermey said the bit about the reach-around, Kubrick stopped him because he didn't know what a reach-around was, so Ermey explained it to him. Imagine <em>that</em> conversation. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3871990 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 07:12:14 -0800 shakespeherian By: Thorzdad http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3871993 <em>Unscripted does not mean improvised...</em> This. There's no way in hell "Here's looking at you, kid." was Bogey winging it with the camera rolling. The scene was obviously set-up, blocked, lit, etc. for that line. The history of Casablanca was that the script was almost constantly being revised as they were shooting, so, while HLAYK may not have been in the current <em>shooting</em> script, it's pretty much guaranteed it went through the writer/director/cinematographer mill before being shot. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3871993 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 07:13:15 -0800 Thorzdad By: shakespeherian http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3871999 Plus 'Here's looking at you, kid' was said like six times previously in the movie, particularly during the Paris flashback. The line wasn't scripted in that it's something Bogart started saying to Bergman on the set, and they put it into the film. But they didn't get to the last week of shooting and say 'Um, oh maybe Rick says something neat to Ilsa! How about he calls her a kid.' comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3871999 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 07:17:26 -0800 shakespeherian By: fijiwriter http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3872006 That video listed the "I know" scene from "Empire Strikes Back," which is commonly known as being not what was originally written. But to get a great understanding of that (I couldn't do it justice here on MetaFilter), pick up the book <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0345509617/metafilter-20/ref=nosim/">"The Making of Empire Strikes Back."</a> Why? Well, during the filming of that scene, someone recorded the behind-the-scenes banter of the director, cast and crew. And it goes on for multiple pages. What you get is the tension between everyone, Ford, Fisher, etc. and how things for that scene were done on the fly. Say what you will about the Star Wars saga, but the price of that book alone is worth it for the pages of transcribed conversations during the carbon freezing of Han Solo. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3872006 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 07:22:38 -0800 fijiwriter By: longdaysjourney http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3872008 <a href="http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2011/05/23/raiders-of-the-lost-ark-30-years-later-a-stuntmans-on-the-set-diary/">That article</a> really is fantastic, thanks pmurray. I always thought that scene happened because Harrison Ford was tired after a long day of shooting. Didn't suspect it was really Spielberg's fault. Loved this line: <i>I suppose the time that really sums up how similar we were was when I was walking along and Harrison's kid came up, took hold of my hand and walked along with me — until I started to speak, which made him look up, scream and run off.</i> Scarred for life! comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3872008 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 07:23:11 -0800 longdaysjourney By: stormpooper http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3872055 Ah when Rutger Hauer and DeNiro were hot. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3872055 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 07:45:04 -0800 stormpooper By: asavage http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3872082 They forgot one of my favorites. From The Philadelphia Story, when Stewart drunkenly heads over to Cary Grant's house ("Ohh C.K. Dexter HAAAAAVENNNN!"). While sitting in the "talking room" Stewart hiccups, and Grant says IIRC "excuse you". Improvised. One of the greatest movies ever made. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3872082 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 08:00:19 -0800 asavage By: villanelles at dawn http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3872109 Excuse me! comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3872109 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 08:15:27 -0800 villanelles at dawn By: jquinby http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3872110 <em>Famously, Ermey was hired as a replacement for the actor who was originally cast as Hartmann (Ermey was initially hired as a technical advisor). During rehearsals, Kubrick was impressed that Ermey could improvise a profanity-ridden tirade for twenty minutes without repeating himself.</em> Might be apocryphal, but I heard somewhere that he did this on tape, and during the whole rant, someone was tossing tennis balls at his head to see if he could/would derail. He didn't miss a beat, or so the story goes. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3872110 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 08:17:11 -0800 jquinby By: Mister Moofoo http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3872115 Ermey's probably pretty comfortable with the improv thing. There's a bit in <i>Seven</i> where a phone starts ringing, he picks it up, says, "This idn't even my desk," and hangs up. IIRC, they were shooting in a real police station, and the phone just rang, and he answered it, and the director kept it. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3872115 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 08:23:11 -0800 Mister Moofoo By: Mister Moofoo http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3872117 Also, the scene that Pacino and DeNiro have together in <i>Heat</i> was pretty much entirely unscripted. Thought that would be in the video. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3872117 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 08:24:58 -0800 Mister Moofoo By: COBRA! http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3872132 <em>Ah when Rutger Hauer and DeNiro were hot. posted by stormpooper</em> I take it you haven't seen <em>Hobo With a Shotgun?</em> comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3872132 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 08:32:10 -0800 COBRA! By: yeti http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3872137 Maybe not culturally significant, but in <em>Zoolander</em> when David Duchovny's character is explaining to Derek Zoolander why they brainwash male models, Ben Stiller misses his line and repeats his previous line, "But why male models?" David Duchovny pauses briefly and improvises, "Are you serious? I just told you that. A moment ago." comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3872137 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 08:35:16 -0800 yeti By: zizzle http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3872138 If we're talking improvised lines here, "This man has no dick" from "Ghostbusters" really ought to be in there. <small>*Also, I really hope I live in a world will Bill Murray really does randomly walk up behind people, put his hands over their eyes and says, "Guess who?" and when they turn around, he says, "And no one will believe you." I really hope this is the world I live in. A world without this actually happening would be <em>so wrong.</em></small> comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3872138 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 08:35:38 -0800 zizzle By: superelastic http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3872154 If the annotation on the video is to be believed, I would give Dustin Hoffman the nod for the Midnight Cowboy scene. To be able to stay completely in character when a completely unplanned (and possibly dangerous) event occurs says a lot about deeply in-character he was. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3872154 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 08:41:23 -0800 superelastic By: koeselitz http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3872164 This is a mistake. None of these are from Mike Leigh movies. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3872164 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 08:46:33 -0800 koeselitz By: koeselitz http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3872184 (Also, some of these are pretty thin for "improvised scenes." Anthony Hopkins saying "hsss" in <em>Silence Of The Lambs</em>? How is that even a <em>line</em>?) comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3872184 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 08:53:47 -0800 koeselitz By: hellbient http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3872204 So now I can not only blame Kubrick for ruining "Singing in the Rain" for me, I can blame McDowell himself. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3872204 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 09:00:29 -0800 hellbient By: ODiV http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3872207 One of my favourites is from <i>His Girl Friday</i>. Cary Grant says a character "looks like that fellow in the movies, Ralph Bellamy" who was the actor playing the guy he was referring to. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3872207 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 09:01:34 -0800 ODiV By: shakespeherian http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3872215 <em>(Also, some of these are pretty thin for "improvised scenes." Anthony Hopkins saying "hsss" in Silence Of The Lambs? How is that even a line?)</em> It wasn't even an improvisation, really. After Hopkins finished delivering the line and the shot was done, he did the little lip-sucking thing as a joke. He was breaking character for humor. Demme kept it in. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3872215 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 09:02:39 -0800 shakespeherian By: gauche http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3872231 I was expecting the <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dv1QDlWbS8g">Cuckoo Clock speech</a> from The Third Man. Don't know if it counts as "unscripted" but Greene (the screenwriter) credits it to Welles. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3872231 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 09:08:25 -0800 gauche By: ciderwoman http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3872241 As has been mentioned before there really is a huge difference between improvised and unscripted. The Rutger Hauer scene in Blade Runner isn't improvised, it may not appear in that days script pages but every book on the subject relates how Hauer called Scott over before the scene because he had some ideas (including using lines from previous drafts, according to producer Micahel Deeley's book). So when they ran the scene, they all knew what was going to happen. When something's improvised on the spot though, that's a whole different kind of magic (and in my experience sometimes it works, sometimes it's a disaster and you need to persuade the actor it's not a great idea going down that route). comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3872241 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 09:13:50 -0800 ciderwoman By: introp http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3872259 I always imagine Nicholas Cage's body movements in the <a href="http://www.hulu.com/watch/33536/moonstruck-wolf">wolf scene in Moonstruck</a>. I read that the script had instructed him to play it pretty angry, glower at her, etc., and instead he pulls out the little "let me fluff my wolfy sideburns" bit and makes light of the whole thing, like it's another defense mechanism he has. It makes his transition into frustration/anger when he flips the table so much better. It's the little improvisational tricks like that which get me. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3872259 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 09:19:49 -0800 introp By: villanelles at dawn http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3872262 This'd be a good time to rewatch another Cary Grant movie The Awful Truth, half of which apparently was improvised. Cary Grant also got much of his Cary Grantness from the director, Leo McCarey. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3872262 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 09:20:44 -0800 villanelles at dawn By: philip-random http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3872304 That Joker bit, where the hospital explosion fizzles out at first, and Heath Ledger's sort of frustrated reaction. That's the only moment I really took away from that movie. Lots of big deal stunts and explosions and scenery chewing, but the timing of that bit and the exploding hospital that followed immediately afterward -- that's the only thing that struck me as genuinely fresh and worth the trouble. So good list for this inclusion alone. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3872304 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 09:38:15 -0800 philip-random By: neuromodulator http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3872308 How can "Game over, man!" make the list?! Ugh. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3872308 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 09:40:04 -0800 neuromodulator By: neuromodulator http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3872315 And, to clarify, the "tears in the rain" bit from Blade Runner was written by Rutger Hauer, but he didn't come up with it while the cameras were running. He wrote it beforehand and then (if I recall correctly) called Ridley Scott into his trailer to pitch the lines. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3872315 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 09:42:18 -0800 neuromodulator By: EmGeeJay http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3872318 <em>That Joker bit, where the hospital explosion fizzles out at first, and Heath Ledger's sort of frustrated reaction. That's the only moment I really took away from that movie. Lots of big deal stunts and explosions and scenery chewing, but the timing of that bit and the exploding hospital that followed immediately afterward -- that's the only thing that struck me as genuinely fresh and worth the trouble. So good list for this inclusion alone.</em> That beat was not improvised. You can see it in the pre-visualization animation they used to plan and storyboard the scene, which is on the blu-ray. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3872318 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 09:46:17 -0800 EmGeeJay By: EmGeeJay http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3872322 Neither was the Malkovich bit, for that matter. The only source for that bit of trivia is a YouTube video (with screened comments) where someone pretending to be Spike Jonze relates that anecdote in a fake clip from a DVD commentary that doesn't exist. Which is appropriately Kaufman-esque, I guess. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3872322 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 09:48:12 -0800 EmGeeJay By: Cool Papa Bell http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3872323 I had to come back in and add this: In a recent podcast, about the movie<a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095631/">Midnight Run,</a> Charles Grodin is quoted as revealing that the scene where he repeats his line "Why are you so unpopular with the Chicago police department?," it turns out that the repeat is because the cameras were running while he and De Niro were rehearsing and running lines. The repeat is not scripted -- Grodin is just re-starting the on-the-fly rehearsal sequence with De Niro. <small>Back to the vision quest...</small> comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3872323 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 09:48:29 -0800 Cool Papa Bell By: EmpressCallipygos http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3872344 Can't access this at work (shh), so -- please tell me they have the whisper-in-the-ear at the end of <em>Lost In Translation</em>, yes? comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3872344 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 10:05:58 -0800 EmpressCallipygos By: zerbinetta http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3872373 <em>I think, like most good legends, there can be some doubt as to what really happened, but why are you so quick to believe this guy telling a new version of the story, and not Ford himself?</em> From what Ford says in your link, I have no problem believing that both stories are true. He says, "But as was very often the case when I suggested it to Steve - 'Let's just shoot the fucker' - he said he'd thought the same thing that morning." comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3872373 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 10:16:45 -0800 zerbinetta By: wabbittwax http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3872403 Most of these aren't really improvised in the strictest sense of the word. Also, for a list of this type to be completely devoid of films by Mike Leigh or John Cassavetes suggests a high degree of ignorance. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3872403 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 10:29:50 -0800 wabbittwax By: Sys Rq http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3872430 <em>If the annotation on the video is to be believed, I would give Dustin Hoffman the nod for the Midnight Cowboy scene. To be able to stay completely in character when a completely unplanned (and possibly dangerous) event occurs says a lot about deeply in-character he was.</em> Hoffman is, or at least was, famously hardcore about method acting. He was always in character. <em>Always.</em> He'd go to great lengths to live the character's life for a good while before the shoot--a practice that would eventually culminate in Lawrence Olivier's famous zinger, "Dear boy, have you tried <em>acting</em>?" comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3872430 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 10:42:27 -0800 Sys Rq By: ciderwoman http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3872485 ... or did he? Hoffman now says (sorry, link broken): <i>He has always said that the most famous story concerning his collaboration with Olivier on Marathon Man has been taken out of context. It was reported that, to prepare himself for a scene in which his character was supposed to have been kept awake for days on end, Hoffman himself refused to go to sleep all night. "Have you ever tried acting, dear boy?" his Lordship was alleged to have said. Hoffman now says that he was, in fact, out partying at Studio 54 the night before and that Olivier's comment was a mild rebuke for his debauchery</i> comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3872485 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 11:03:39 -0800 ciderwoman By: holdkris99 http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3872528 The <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k35cuOy1s-I">"Ask me again"</a> towards the end of this scene in Almost Famous is my favorite. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3872528 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 11:20:31 -0800 holdkris99 By: dhartung http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3872632 Speaking of Bill Murray, I've understood that practically his entire appearance in <i>Tootsie</i> was improvised. A true national treasure. I was unsatisfied with the compilation, not just for the dull-as-bricks annotations, but for content choices. Improv, to me, is spur-of-the-moment acting that makes it to final cut, whereas unscripted includes many other things that may have been worked out as on-set alterations from the shooting script. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3872632 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 12:01:43 -0800 dhartung By: clvrmnky http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3872668 Metafilter: either a steer or a queer. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3872668 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 12:13:27 -0800 clvrmnky By: ciderwoman http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3872678 I would have thought it was more Metafilter: Always willing to provide a reach around. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3872678 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 12:17:07 -0800 ciderwoman By: mannequito http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3872776 Was that whole scene from Saving Private Ryan really improvised, anyone know? It seems like a rather key point in the movie to have left the script blank and told Matt Damon "oh, just tell some stories or something!" comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3872776 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 12:42:59 -0800 mannequito By: ciderwoman http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3872802 I'd imagine if it was included here then rather than improvised it was probably rescripted by Damon. I don't know if he is, but Meisner is very popular with a lot of actors these days (it's a spin off from the method), and a lot of Meisner actors have stories linked in to emotions, full of detail, that they use so it's quite possible Damon saw the script and asked to change it to something similar that he already had. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3872802 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 12:49:23 -0800 ciderwoman By: airing nerdy laundry http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3872814 The Long Goodbye where Elliot Gould and Sterling Hayden improvise their convo. by the beach and Gould refuses to take off his JC Penny tie but they still have an old fashion drinkin party is my favorite improvised scene. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3872814 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 12:54:26 -0800 airing nerdy laundry By: Freon http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3872818 <em>I suppose the time that really sums up how similar we were was when I was walking along and Harrison's kid came up, took hold of my hand and walked along with me — until I started to speak, which made him look up, scream and run off.</em> I have a <em>whole, new</em> "Deckard is a replicant" theory... comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3872818 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 12:56:21 -0800 Freon By: dirtdirt http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3872827 <em>I was expecting the Cuckoo Clock speech from The Third Man.</em> I was expecting the <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnrYBq0SONI">final shot from The Third Man</a>. I've read that there was a happy ending scripted (how absurd would THAT have been?) and then they came upon the basic idea for the final shot - easily in the discussion for 'best final shot of all time'. Ebert <a href="http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/19961208/REVIEWS08/401010366/1023">says</a>: "Joseph Cotten recalled later that he thought the scene would end sooner. But Reed kept the camera running, making it an unusually long shot, and absolutely perfect." I've read that elsewhere but it is eluding me right now. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3872827 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 12:58:19 -0800 dirtdirt By: villanelles at dawn http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3872863 <em>Was that whole scene from Saving Private Ryan really improvised, anyone know?</em> I think I remember Matt Damon saying that they were reshooting the scene for Tom Hanks' reaction shots and he was just messing around trying to get Hanks crack up and Spielberg ended up liking the improvised story so much that they reshot Damon's part to include it. I don't remember where I heard that but I don't think I'm making it up. Or it could have been a dream. Wouldn't be the first time I had a dream about Matt Damon. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3872863 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 13:11:08 -0800 villanelles at dawn By: EmpressCallipygos http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3872882 Speaking of Matt Damon (by extension) -- I've heard that Robin Williams' character's story about his wife breaking wind in her sleep was improvised as well, which is why Matt Damon is in particular hysterics. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3872882 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 13:16:34 -0800 EmpressCallipygos By: JHarris http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3872883 <i>During rehearsals, Kubrick was impressed that Ermey could improvise a profanity-ridden tirade for twenty minutes without repeating himself.</i> Wouldn't that have made Who's Line Is It Anyway? a different experience. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3872883 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 13:17:08 -0800 JHarris By: wabbittwax http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3872905 I just realized there's not a single Christopher Guest production in this group and I don't know how you can not include every scene from "Best In Show" in a list like this. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3872905 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 13:23:55 -0800 wabbittwax By: ciderwoman http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3872925 (and in reference to some of the Mike Leigh comments, the improvisation with him comes in rehearsals, but once it's all done a formal script is written and <a href="http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/movies/2013980145_broadbent23.html">when the cameras roll, there's no improvisation at all</a>. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3872925 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 13:30:29 -0800 ciderwoman By: never used baby shoes http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3873023 <em>And, to clarify, the "tears in the rain" bit from Blade Runner was written by Rutger Hauer, but he didn't come up with it while the cameras were running. He wrote it beforehand and then (if I recall correctly) called Ridley Scott into his trailer to pitch the lines.</em> And just to be the ultimate pedantic nitpicker, the line is "like tears in rain". I love the line and the fact that Hauer wrote that piece of dialogue himself, and it always bugs me to see the "the" added. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3873023 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 13:55:50 -0800 never used baby shoes By: kmz http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3873046 How can any compilation like this not include the <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1XOfHax6Q8">greatest cinematic line of all time</a>? (Oh John Barrowman, you magnificent cheesetastic bastard.) comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3873046 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 14:02:42 -0800 kmz By: ciderwoman http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3873052 never used baby shoes - don't forget some of it came from earlier drafts of the script too, it wasn't all Hauer. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3873052 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 14:04:45 -0800 ciderwoman By: villanelles at dawn http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3873085 <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeWiHerwTW4"> Barrowman!</a> comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3873085 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 14:28:16 -0800 villanelles at dawn By: never used baby shoes http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3873101 ciderwoman - fair enough. I still love the fact that Hauer was involved enough with the film and the character to invest in being part of that line's creation. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3873101 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 14:36:30 -0800 never used baby shoes By: mannequito http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3873103 It doesn't really fall under the category of improvisation, but this has been bugging me since I read this thread earlier - what was that Kevin Bacon movie that came out around the same time as The Sixth Sense, and was kind of similar. I think it took place in Boston and involved a haunted townhouse or something like that... Anyways, late in the movie there's a scene of him in his back yard, and he gets frustrated and kicks something, a ball or a bucket, and it flies up and goes right through the second story window. Wasn't intentional, just pure luck. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3873103 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 14:37:49 -0800 mannequito By: ODiV http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3873115 Almost all of my MetaFilter comments are improvised. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3873115 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 14:45:07 -0800 ODiV By: kmz http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3873128 <i>It doesn't really fall under the category of improvisation, but this has been bugging me since I read this thread earlier - what was that Kevin Bacon movie that came out around the same time as The Sixth Sense, and was kind of similar.</i> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stir_of_Echoes">Stir of Echoes.</a> comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3873128 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 14:49:46 -0800 kmz By: Rykey http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3873179 According to Martin Sheen (in <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0102015/">Hearts of Darkness</a>, the documentary about the making of Apocalypse Now... kind of), he was really wasted during the shooting of one of the scenes in the opening sequence, and did not mean to smash the mirror in front of him. His NSFW discussion (from the documentary) of it <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sD1jkBL6NwA">here</a>. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3873179 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 15:15:54 -0800 Rykey By: Gelatin http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3873218 <i>the "tears in the rain" bit from Blade Runner was written by Rutger Hauer, but he didn't come up with it while the cameras were running. He wrote it beforehand </i> Similarly, if memory serves me right, Robert Shaw wrote Quint's USS Indianapolis speech in <i>Jaws</i>, but didn't make it up with the cameras rolling (obviously not, since I don't think the scene is done as a single take). comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3873218 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 15:40:26 -0800 Gelatin By: Danf http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3873229 <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfFJLFeyI1o&feature=related">This</a> (Jack Nicholson's baseball commentary from One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest) was mostly improvised, I heard once. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3873229 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 15:45:17 -0800 Danf By: Hoopo http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3873318 <em>Stir of Echoes.</em> Pretty good scary movie despite using the same setup plot device as Office Space. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3873318 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 17:03:41 -0800 Hoopo By: ShutterBun http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3873352 I was expecting the taxi scene from On The Waterfront, though apparently that's another famously improvised scene that wasn't improvised at all. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3873352 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 17:42:56 -0800 ShutterBun By: Sebmojo http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3873377 This comment from the Harrison Ford's stuntman link is fantastic: <em>Harriet Bee · 12 weeks ago That scene where Harrison Ford just takes out his pistol and shoots the Arab swordsman (instead of engaging him in a real fight) is such a tired cliche. And from the sound of it, the extended sequence originally planned (and meticulously rehearsed) would have been so much cooler. I am so disappointed that we never got to see that scene. Spielberg really let us down on that one. It makes me sick. Why did Spielberg have to get on that plane at 3:00? Surely he could have caught the next plane. What utter selfishness to deprive us the action sequence that we deserved. We paid the money for our movie ticket and then were cheated. The classic bait and switch. I can't watch 'Raiders' now without getting angry and physically sick to my stomach. Shame on you, Steven! </em> IF YOU HAD NOT <strong>HELD DOWN</strong> EACH AN EVERYONE OF US WHO PAID COLD HARD DELICIOUS AMERICAN DOLLARS OF MONEY FOR YOUR 'FILM' AND <strong>MADE US SUFFER</strong> THROUGH A SELFISH ODYSSEY OF SLACK CHEATING LAZYNESS, STEVEN <strong>STEALBERG</strong> THEN MY LIFE WOULD NOT NOW BE A <strong>HOLLOW STINKING EXCRESCENCE</strong> DAMN YOU TO 10000000 PITS OF HADES DAMN YUO I SAY comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3873377 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 18:08:34 -0800 Sebmojo By: pmurray63 http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3873386 <em>Similarly, if memory serves me right, Robert Shaw wrote Quint's USS Indianapolis speech in Jaws, but didn't make it up with the cameras rolling (obviously not, since I don't think the scene is done as a single take).</em> John Milius wrote a 10-12-page draft that was far longer than they could use. Shaw edited it down to about 5 pages. It was shot in two consecutive nights -- during the first, Shaw was quite drunk, then cold sober the next night. Pieces of both are used in the movie, but good luck trying to spot the difference! comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3873386 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 18:23:15 -0800 pmurray63 By: pmurray63 http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3873411 <em>why are you so quick to believe this guy telling a new version of the story, and not Ford himself? Simply because it casts Spielberg in a less-flattering light? Didn't suspect it was really Spielberg's fault.</em> For the record, I don't "blame" or "fault" Spielberg. It was simply a decision made during production that happily resulted in one of the movie's most memorable moments. As I mentioned on my blog after I read the article, I had several people tell me, "I don't want to spoil the movie for you, but there's this one scene ..." and THAT was the scene they described. I think the end result was far more memorable than if the scene had continued as originally planned. And yes, I don't think it entirely contradicts the more famous version. Reading the <em>Times</em> article, you can see why Ford probably felt awful and was happy to cut things short. At that point it simply comes down to how exactly you define "improvised." comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3873411 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 18:40:26 -0800 pmurray63 By: kirkaracha http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3873570 <q><i>It was shot in two consecutive nights -- during the first, Shaw was quite drunk, then cold sober the next night. Pieces of both are used in the movie, but good luck trying to spot the difference!</i></q> Hardcore! comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3873570 Tue, 16 Aug 2011 21:15:29 -0800 kirkaracha By: Ber http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3874024 I don't think the scene in Indiana Jones would have worked nearly as well if they had a big set action piece of Indy taking on the swordsman in black. It would certainly wouldn't have been remembered as well. I am old enough to have seen it in the theater when it was released and that scene got deafening laughter and applause. It sure set the idea in your head that Indy was just as badass as Han Solo and if George Lucas would have a chance he'd probably digitally alter it so Indy didn't shoot first. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3874024 Wed, 17 Aug 2011 07:08:07 -0800 Ber By: Deathalicious http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3874520 <em>Stir of Echoes.</em> Couple of things I really liked about Stir of Echoes: 1) It's clearly made by someone who likes and has a lot of respect for horror films and the horror genre (just listen to the director's commentary, which is truly excellent) 2) with the exception of one scene, all of the effects were made without CGI. I like CGI-based movies just fine, but I can see how going without them shows off a bit more cinematic talent. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3874520 Wed, 17 Aug 2011 10:24:02 -0800 Deathalicious By: gregoryg http://www.metafilter.com/106545/25-Greatest-Unscripted-Scenes-in-Films#3874569 To clarify the Hauer line further, the majority wasn't improvised or even written by him: it was cut down from a longer, clunkier monologue and he added the line "like tears in rain" to the end of it. It was talked about in detail on the Dangerous Days documentary and there's a good breakdown on the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tannhauser_Gate">Wikipedia Page</a>. The original line Hauer modified was: <em>"I've seen things... seen things you little people wouldn't believe... Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion bright as magnesium... I rode on the back decks of a blinker and watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tanhauser Gate. All those moments... they'll be gone."</em> As seen <a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20090505194309/http://brmovie.com/Downloads/Docs/BR_Script_1981.txt">in the 1981 shooting script</a>. comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.106545-3874569 Wed, 17 Aug 2011 10:44:09 -0800 gregoryg ¡°Why?¡± asked Larry, in his practical way. "Sergeant," admonished the Lieutenant, "you mustn't use such language to your men." "Yes," accorded Shorty; "we'll git some rations from camp by this evenin'. Cap will look out for that. Meanwhile, I'll take out two or three o' the boys on a scout into the country, to see if we can't pick up something to eat." Marvor, however, didn't seem satisfied. "The masters always speak truth," he said. "Is this what you tell me?" MRS. B.: Why are they let, then? My song is short. I am near the dead. So Albert's letter remained unanswered¡ªCaro felt that Reuben was unjust. She had grown very critical of him lately, and a smarting dislike coloured her [Pg 337]judgments. 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